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Meetings
The annual
KDE PIM Meeting
Osnabrück 8 took place at the Intevation offices in Osnabrück from Friday, January 8th 2010, to Sunday, January 10th.
Location / Travel Information
Office
Intevation
Neuer Graben 17
49074 Osnabrück
Germany
Phone: +49-541/335083-0
Arrival: see
Hotel
Dom-Hotel Osnabrück
Kleine Domsfreiheit 5
49074 Osnabrück
Germany
Phone: (+49)541/35835-0
Fax : (+49)541/35835-35
Rooms booked on 2010-01-05 (by emanuel).
11 single rooms
1 double rooms
1 parking
Participants
Non-locals, please add your travel details and accomodation needs (Do you want to
share
a double room with somebody?) to the following table.
15
participants (2010-01-05):
Name
Arrival
Departure
Accommodation needed
Ingo Klöcker
Friday afternoon
Sunday evening
yes (sharing a room is ok)
Tom Albers
Friday afternoon
Sunday evening
single room, car parking
Volker Krause
Friday, 11:51, by train
Sunday, 16:08, by train
single room
Thorsten Staerk
Friday afternoon
Sunday evening
single room, no car
David Jarvie
Friday, 18:06, by train
Sunday, 13:53, by train
yes
Stephen Kelly
Friday, 11:51, by train
Sunday, 16:08, by train
yes
Sebastian Trueg
Friday, afternoon
Saturday, evening
yes
Bertjan Broeksema
Friday, 11:51, by train
Sunday, 16:08, by train
yes
Patrick Ohly
Friday, evening
Sunday, afternoon
yes
Tobias Koenig
Friday, early afternoon
Sunday, afternoon
yes (sharing a room is ok)
Kevin Krammer
Friday afternoon
Sunday afternoon
yes (sharing a room is ok)
Cornelius Schumacher
Friday early afternoon
Sunday afternoon
yes
Thomas McGuire
Friday noon
Sunday afternoon
yes
Paul Adams
Tuesday, 5 Jan
Wednesday, 13 Jan
No thanks
Georg Greve
Tuesday, 5 Jan
Some time
No thanks
Bernhard Reiter
(resident)
Björn Ricks
(resident)
Topics
Nepomuk integration
Review the current feeder agents, Sebastian had some ideas on how to improve them
Review search queries used by KMail, esp. full text search does not yet cover everything I think
Look into recording usage data (think recently used addresses++)
Kontact and Kolab Groupware update
KDEPIM on mobile devices like Maemo5/6, Symbian or Windows-Mobile.
The future of PIM/groupware regarding privacy and data syncing. (see the last section of
KDEPIM on Windows.
Thorsten
wants to change back ktimetracker from a kontact part to a standalone-application. What experiences have others made?
SyncML support, both as client and server, and how SyncEvolution could be integration into KDE for that
sync support beyond SyncML
PIM data conversion (Evolution vCard dialect vs. KDE vs. ...)
Discuss merging of the akoandi-ports branch
KMail data/config migration to Akonadi
Identifying other critical parts for 4.5
What do we do with bugs/wishes of the pre-Akonadi apps?
Making (more) use of CDash
my.cdash.org
fix our unit tests
integration into our workflow (eg. subscribing kde-pim to build errors?)
Planning the 4.5 development cycle
depend on kdelibs trunk or 4.4?
as much discussions, reviews, and presentations as possible
Parenting of Akonadi::Items
Potentially implementable generically
Lots of issues related to multiple possible parents for emails for example.
The agent can not just pick one item as the parent if you get duplicate mails for example.
Brainstorming for Summer of Code ideas
Agenda
Details to be decided
Friday
Arrival and start to meet and work
19:00 Dinner in restaurant
"Rampendahl"
, Hasestraße 35
Saturday
08:00 Breakfast
09:00 Meet and work
10:00
#qtcreator_bof
11:00 Kolab Konsortium projects for this year (Bernhard)
12:30 Lunch
14:00 Group photo
14:10 Syncing (Patrick)
16:00 Planning for 4.5 / 4.6
18:00 KDE PIM Marketing
19:00 Dinner in restaurant "Planeta Sol" (Brazilian), Bergstraße 8 (VHS building)
Sunday
08:00 Breakfast
09:00 Begin
10:00 CDash
10:45 GSoC brainstorming
12:30 Lunch
Meeting Minutes
Kolab Konsortium projects
2008: Enterprise4
Port of Kontact to KDE 4 running on Linux, Mac OS X (Beta), Windows (Beta); here Beta refers to readiness for production use in enterprises
the latest release was in December 2009
Kontact for Windows can be downloaded at
2009: Prototype Enterprise5
Development of a prototype of Kontact based on Akonadi
Funding for the development of the final product has not yet been secured
2010: Komo3 -> Enterprise 5
Development/Port of Kontact (Enterprise5 version) to N900 (prototype) and a Windows Mobile 6.5 device (production quality), the device is not yet fixed, maybe an htc touch pro2. More than 80% of the code is expected to be ths same for all five platforms.
Release Plans
KDE SC 4.4
in deep freeze
KAddressBook based on Akonadi and Nepomuk
KDE SC 4.5
will probably be released in August 2010; feature freeze will be in April or May
Goal: KMail, KOrganizer, KJots and probably also Akregator based on Akonadi and Nepomuk
Akonadi-ports branch will be merged to trunk very soon (next week); most serious open issue: migration of old mail storage; combined maildir/mbox resource (aka KMail legacy resource) is needed
some important user visible changes that the Akonadi-port of KMail will bring:
Working virtual folders (aka search folders)
IMAP IDLE support
Caching policies for IMAP (and probably other online resources)
On Akonadi meeting before the freeze we will decide if Kontact is ready for release with KDE SC 4.5
kdepim will have to compile and work with kdelibs 4.4
Git move: need to get involved
Beyond KDE SC 4.5
Enterprise-ready Kontact
Explore new UI concepts for Kontact enabled by Akonadi/Nepomuk (for non-enterprise users)
Marketing Meeting
Brainstorming
How to improve KDE Marketing
blogging more
microblogging
youtube videos
wiki page
explaining this (Thorsten)
technorati tagging
reach outside the KDE community
write articles in magazines
good t-shirts
talk to people at conferences
talk at Cebit
organize KDE PIM conferences
invite people to release events
KDE beer (subclass of open source beer)
cute mascot
/usr groups
eat your own dogfoot campaign inside of KDE
KDE PIM slogan
email cool things to multiplicators
release songs
KDE PIM Planet (Tom)
facebook group
linkedin group
own release announcement
calendar (Akonadi resource)
up-to-date sexy website
people of KDE PIM
SUSE Studio build of PIM apps (Tom)
demo data
finishing, publishing, promoting Windows installer
hire marketing company
download links for all platforms
search Engine optimization
usability studies and doing something about it
"renaissance" for KDE PIM
invite supporting members to talk about PIM
bring partners/journalists to meetings
contact open-source professor
talk to students, go to universities
promote fun job security
lobbyism
KDE PIM commit digest (Paul)
Bank of KDE
Make demo CDs
NX demo server
public Kolab server
status reports
feature guide (Tobias)
KDE forum
welcome dude (Tom)
readme.packager (Tobias)
Targeted Audience
General public
Potential new developers
KDE community
Existing KDE users
cDash meeting
See
and
Summer of Code brainstorming
More resources, including VM images for testing
OpenChange
OpenDesktop
Scalix
GroupDav/CalDav
New reminder daemon with more bling
SyncEvolution integration
WebKit port of KMail's composer
Grantlee port of the message viewer
Plasma port of the Kontact summary
Semantic analysis of notes with Scribo
Python client library for Akonadi
Social networking concept/component for PIM
General Kontact (the shell) improvements
Unified system tray icon
New concept for unified config dialog
...
Zeitgeist for Kontact
Other cool Nepomuk-related enhancements for Kontact
Person-centric PIM view
Including transport-independent communication
Project-centric PIM view
New logging framework for KDE + UI for that
3D E-Mail/Thread viewer
BOFs
qtcreator bof
How to participate
People who want to participate in this
BOF
contact Thorsten via chat.
Goal
We want to learn tricks how to use our time most effectively with Qt Creator. We want to learn and document how we best move existing KDE programs towards Qt Creator. As an example, if you do not have a .ui file for your UI, you will not be as effective as you could be with Qt Creator.
Topics
What about KDevelop and Eclipse?
How to create a new project with qtcreator
How to import an existing project (kdepim) into qtcreator
Meeting notes
Reparenting of items will continue in the same vein as currently. Details on the mailing list.
Blogs
Tom Albers: KDE-PIM Meeting #8: Day 1 + 2 + 3.
Thorsten's view
Kevin Krammer: Osnabrück PIM Meeting 2010
Photos
Photos of meeting and flipchart (by Bernhard)
Press
Dot article
Linux Magazin
(german only)
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