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Proposals for closing projects
The result of the following proposal for closing a WMF project is to
CLOSE
the project.
Please, do not modify this page
The following discussion is closed.
Ending per Discussion: Result:
Delete
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Johannes Rohr
12:32, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
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I propose closing this discussion within seven days from now, and then announcing the final result.
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Johannes Rohr
13:05, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
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Closure of Old English Wikisource
ang.wikisource.org (
Middle English
Wikisource) is a dead wiki for a dead language/english variation. The most frequent action is user creation. See the complete listing of all editions that this wiki has received up today in
According to
s:ang:Special:Statistics
There are 11 total pages in the database. This includes "talk" pages, pages about Wicifruma, minimal "stub" pages, redirects, and others that probably don't qualify as content pages. Excluding those, there are 0 pages that are probably legitimate content pages.
This is the full list of articles on Main namespace:
s:ang:Brunanburh
, copy-and-paste from
s:en:Bright's Anglo-Saxon Reader/The Battle of Brunanburh
s:ang:Cnēorisbōc
is copyvio? (see
s:ang:Talk:Cnēorisbōc
s:ang:Dēor
s:ang:Main Page
redirects to
s:ang:Hēafodsīde
s:ang:Hēafodsīde
is the Main page
s:ang:Se Wīdfarend
, copy-and-paste from
s:en:Bright's Anglo-Saxon Reader/The Wanderer
English Wikisource maintain acceptance of texts in Middle English. See
s:Wikisource:Scriptorium/Archives/2005/10#Middle English
(and
s:Category:Middle English Fiction
). I don't see any reason to keep this wiki open.
See also
oldwikisource:Wikisource:Scriptorium/Archives/Jan 2006 - Dec 2006#Middle_Old_English_Wikisource
Support closure
Support
, as proposer.
555
23:40, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
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Support
; English Wikisource should be used for Old English works (see
wikisource:Category:Old English works
) --
Spangineer
wp
ws
(háblame)
00:05, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
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Support
. The English Wikisource already accepts Old English. --
Benn Newman
00:22, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
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Support
, English Wikisource will accept works in Old English.--
Shanel
00:35, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
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Support
, --
LadyInGrey
02:40, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
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Support
. Merge and redirect to en.wikisource.org.
Angela
03:26, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
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Support
-jkb-
09:14, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
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Support
per nom.
Edward Chernenko
12:29, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
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Support
Use en.WS for all anglic languages.--
BirgitteSB
17:38, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
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Support,
Slade
17:51, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
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Support
en.ws has always agreed to host OE works for history of the English language purposes. Without anyone actively using it, I can only see it becoming a vandal wiki.—
Zhaladshar
(Talk)
19:28, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
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Support. Redirect to en.wikisource.org. —
Theo
(Talk)
00:22, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
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Support
ThomasV
13:19, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
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Support
Yann
14:58, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
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Support
Lincher
20:09, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
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Support
Dovi
20:47, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
belongs in en.wikisource
reply
Support
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Sir James Paul
16:53, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
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Support
When there is no real development there, English Wikisource can have the texts. Likewise, even though Classic Chinese Wikipedia is now open, Chinese Wikisource users have no strong desire to break Classic Chinese texts away into a separare subdomain.--
Jusjih
14:42, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
(admin of English and Chinese Wikisource)
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Support
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BeatrixBelibaste
16:37, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
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Support
. No real editing going on here, so I don't really think it should be kept.
Nishkid64
00:57, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
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Support
per above (no edits/content).
Cbrown1023
22:06, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
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Support
, as I already suggested at
Inactive wikis#Wikisource
last September.
Angr
15:47, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
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Support
, per above. No need for project. Back to Incubator, maybe.
Thunderhead
03:30, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
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Support
. Totally redundant with other projects, and a spam trap waiting to happen.
Grand
master
ka
21:06, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
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Support
. The whole Old English Wikipedia is inactive, so why should it have a Wikisource? I just see no reason for this. --
Roosa
Talk
21:55, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
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Dead languages don't need 'pedias unless there is an active hobby community trying to use them (for fun, for pedagogical reasons, etc)... but you can make the argument for a 'source repository more easily. However if all the texts on this 'source are already on the english wikisource, what's the need? This is a dead language with a successor.
Support
++
Lar
23:52, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
reply
Support
per above. --
Tone
17:37, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
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Support
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80.102.169.112
18:40, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
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Support
, one en.wikisource for en/ang/simple-eng --
Hello World!
14:16, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
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Oppose closure
Oppose
Wikisource, more so than Wikipedia, is the kind of project best suited for an ancient languages. Let's dump a lot of Old English texts there, they're after all PD and a vital source for the corresponding Wikipedia's vocabulary.
Steinbach
(formerly Caesarion)
13:37, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
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All texts in the current ang.wikisource are avaiable and accepted on en.wikisource. This isn't a
delete all texts in Old English from all Wikisources
, this is just a
close the ang.wikisource, one of the most inactive Wikisources
. Sorry, I don't understand your comment.
555
04:17, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
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Well, in that case closing the Old English Wikisource is a serious option. But so is moving all Old English texts to ang.wikisource! It would only be consistent to keep source texts in language X in the wikisource project of the corresponding, if such a project exists. French with French, German with German, Anglo-Saxon with Anglo-Saxon.
Steinbach
(formerly Caesarion)
10:10, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
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Should I request to create three or four new Czech Wikisources? There is the modern Czech language, but we have also that one of the 18. century, the mediaeval one and than something like old church slavonic based one... and the the regions...:-) I think, Anglo-Saxon in the en.source can be held together with an special system of categories. In the en.source, at least, there will be plenty of people who take care, in the being ang.source the vandals only will do it.
-jkb-
11:04, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
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Oppose
English and Anglo-Saxon Old English are related, but they are no longer the same. Old English is a "pure" Germanic language (I honestly feel uncomfortable using the words pure and Germanic in the same sentence, but it seems the best way to describe the language), with a literary tradition all its own. English is a development of amalgamating Anglo-Saxon with Norman French with rather heavy borrowing from Latin. It would seem foolish two have one wikisource that has text in two distinguishable languages. A person fluent in Modern English may be able to "fight his way" through Chaucer, but without learning the vocabulary and grammar for Anglo-Saxon, could never get through the first line of
Beowulf
. You run the risk of confusing non-English-speaking visitors to the English wikisource if they try to read the Old English texts. Besides if all these people who support deleting the wiki could take the time to do so, why couldn't they have spent their time posting items for the Old English wikisource?
— The preceding
unsigned
comment was added by
138.251.247.87
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Johannes Rohr
12:29, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
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