Q16. Is there anything you particularly dislike or find frustrating about the process of reading and acting on Notifications? I have large numbers of stale notifications  that I dont know how to get rid of from projects I only affected tangentially As I have the site wide beta notifications enabled, there are two issues: / 1: Loading up the notifications is very slow, to the point where it becomes annoying (I guess we're all used to fast interfaces these days) / 2: The interface does not make it clear that I have to explicitly discard a notification from another wiki by clicking the "x" for it to be marked as read on said wiki. If I do not, and then later visit that wiki, I am shown the notifications on that wiki as well. Or at least that's how it appears to work for me. They're not encouraging and positive enough. And I get a lot of notifications from bots. I dislike that they don't give a notification when the page is already open. As soon as I click on the "notifications" tab at the top of the page, all new notifications change colour to the same colour as old notifications, making it difficult to be sure which are new ones and which are ones I've already checked. Can't mark as unread The wording of the mentioned you should be cleaned up a little, for example it isn't always a talk page. Sometimes it is useful to find an old notification - a search option would be helpful Occasionally overwhelming in volume No sometimes I click on notifications and it switches page rather than make thge dropdown box Mostly no complaints. Maybe "mention" notifications should go under the "Messages" tab? That way I'd have all the discussion-related notifications in one place. These are often the ones I have to go back and find, and may be buried amongst all the thanks and page link notifications I get. Sometimes the javascript doesn't load properly, so I have to open the page Special:Notifications manually. /  / When I get great amount of notifications (i.e., when bots are creating new entries that link to those I created), there's no way to mark of them as read. Sometimes I get more than one thousand in a day. Not clear what in the box I should press, since everything feels like a link (the hand cursor), but nothing is actually real links (no URL in the browser's status bar thingy). Especially confusing when you have several links in one notification. Am I going to that user's user page? Am I going to a diff? Article history? Pages reverted even after references are made, or event actually occurred. Why do I get notifications on my User page for 20 languages where I never do an edit? Crosswiki notifications are often out of date and redundant.  Sometimes I see the same notifications for the same messages on en.wiki and commons. I find it frustrating when the load time for the notifications list takes so long that I get redirected to Special:Notifications instead. However, I understand that it may be important for user experience. I would love it if load times were somehow reduced. Flow notifications are problematic - either by sending too many of them, or having them not contain useful information. Mentions ought to count as "messages" in the split messages/notifications system, since they're almost always a) responses in wikitext threads or b) an implicit summons to a thread. The talk pages list should be reduced. Only new ones should be shown. Flow. It's shit. difficult on mobile Notifications come up in a window overlaid over the "current" Wikipedia page I was viewing.  Issue 1: when I read notifications I sometimes act on them (e.g. perhaps thanking an editor), and it would be helpful if the notifications window was something that could be returned to, so that I could continue reading down through them.  I really could be wrong but I think it is hard to go back and forth from the linked pages and the list of notifications.  Issue 2: I think that it is impossible to close the notifications window and get back to the current Wikipedia page.  I think that if I use the "back" button in my Chrome browser that it takes me to the previous page, and then going forward again comes to the current page still overlaid with the notifications.  I could be wrong about how it works, but I think it is not clear how to clear the notifications display off the current page.  Again I could be wrong about both issues, but at any rate put me down as a person not mastering how to control the notifications display.  I would like to be able to toggle display of notifications onto my current page easily (or go to a notifications window). /  / It is somewhat frustrating not to be I love the notifications They can never be marked as read.. The fear of a revert and a new edit war. On "A link was made from ARTICLE1 to ARITCLE2" you can click through to the articles but not to the diff. Often it is obvious to me why ARTICLE1 might be linking to ARTICLE2 but when it isn't obvious what connection might be between them, I'd really like to see exactly where in ARTICLE1 the link was made with a bit of context (as diff gives  you) rather than having to search the article. no I don't like notifications, that's why they are disallowed I find the number of page link notifications to be overwhelming. Sometimes I create a much-needed stub or an important article and it gets put in a template and every time that template is transcluded I get a notification. While I can see it being useful, I think that having them bundled may be a better help. Sometimes getting random notifications from unrelated projects "X has reverted your edit" is AWFUL, though it took me years to realize that. When that little red thing pops up to say "Nah nah nuh nah nah! You've been reverrrrrrted!" it gives the recipient an adrenaline jolt, initiating the fight-or-flight response. This being cyberspace, flight is impossible (it follows you everywhere) so FIGHT is the only option. I think the editing culture of WP would be much improved, and editors' blood pressures would be collectively lowered, if the default setting (for new accounts) for Preferences > Notifications > Edit Revert were made "unchecked" i.e. No.  See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Revert_notification_opt-out  If you care about an article have it on your watchlist and keep an eye on changes (not just reverts); having a special revert notification seems like something specifically invented to let fragile egos know when to scream, "How DARE you revert ME???" /  / Beyond that, the interface for different types of notifications is inconsistent. It's often unclear where in the notif you need to click to go to the change -- sometimes it's "your edit", sometimes it's "View change", sometimes I can't figure it out. For "Article X was linked from Article Y" I don't think I was ever able to figure out where to click (not sure of this -- seldom get that notif). Having two lists: the notification list and the watch-list. I would suggest somehow integrating the notifications into the watchlist. the notifications drop down is too small. Rudeness of certain editors All is fine, but the WMF surveys are HIGLY ANNOYING.  The Wikimedia Foundation schould spend less money in making nonsense surveys.  There a hundreds of high priority bug reports and feature requests open on phabricator which needs attention. Please don't was communitys time and moneys by making such surveys, just pull the data from the database if you want. Having volunteered at [[WP:RM]] some years ago, I have the first edit on a number of articles that I have no specific interest in, and my notfications tend to be swamped by notifications of new links to those pages. It would be useful to be able to 'disown' specific pages that I (technically) created, so that I don't get notified about new links to them, but retain the others that I do still care about. NA Not yet, accept the way the are delivered is crap. The whole interface and indeed wikipedia is last century. N/A Yes: SLOW to load. It is frustrating that I can't set the pages that generate a "was linked to" to be the one's I'm actually interested in seeing, rather than just pages I created (which I might not always be interested in). I have no idea what it means that someone has reviewed a page. Some types of notifications are not persistent enough; notifications should persist until specifically dismissed, not disappear at the first click Absolutely. I would like to be able to click on an "open all" button and have each unread notification open in a new tab. I also dislike that if I open a notification on Wikipedia, then go to Meta or such, that there is the same notification waiting for me there, but it implies that it is fresh. I hate that AWB stops working when a notification comes in and I am forced to go read the notification. There is no way to postpone reading the message. AWB shuts down and opens the notification. Page review notification is REALLY strident. All types being lumped in together. / Notifications from all projects being lumped in together. Pinging sometimes does not work. It's annoying to know I've been reverted.  Sometimes I think I would be better off not knowing. Pages linked to an article I created years ago aren't necessarily very useful. Frustrating that I can't thank anons. [[WP:POPUPS]] does not interact with all linked elements of the notification, or Popups does not do quite what I expected.  Also, when sending "thanks", it asks if I am good sending a "public" thanks:  Where can one see those? The new notification drop down list is very slow to load. And if I click too early, it takes me to Special:Notifications instead. Granted this could be because other scripts are slow too (like Twinkle) but it would be nice if the notification list was prioritized I would like to be able to blacklist/whitelist link notifications. Some pages I created I don't care about links made to them, and some pages I didn't create I would like to know about links. There is no option of keeping the legacy "orange box of doom". Huge backlog of several year old notifications from projects I hardly ever visit, but this is a transient and will soon go away I hope. no On mobile Wikimedia sites, sometimes when you press the notification "bell" button, it loads as a new page with the notifications filling up the whole screen, to get off your notifications then, you have to press the back button which then reloads the previous page. This is compared to what it usually does, which is slides out in an animation type thing, not loading a new page, and you can get rid of this by clicking a cross, this then doesn't reload the page but just closes the notification menu. Nope. Cross-wiki notifications used to be a problem, but you guys fixed that, thanks! I can't mark items as 'unread' if I don't have time to deal with them now and want to come back to them. Often on mobile notifications don't go away even after being viewed. There is no way to selectively turn off notifications when someone linked to an article I created but don't care for any more (eg. redirects) Sometimes the drop-down thing loads slowly. /  / I find it unnecessary to receive notifications for automated postings by bots like for translations or rfc's. I wish they would automatically mark themselves as read when the notifications dropdown is opened. An option to manually mark one as unread would also be good. Nothing. Sometimes notifications don't show in time, or show lately. None, I prefer that the red colour signifying new notifications be darkened. The "link to page" notifications are frustrating for a number of reasons: 1) I have written something like 400+ articles -- some of them very broad, so I get notifications about links on a regular basis. 2) The regular notifications wouldn' be so bad, except I can't see the diff easily to thank the person that made the change and frequently, for some of these more important articles, there are 5 links -- and its almost impossible to tell which ones they are because the "What Links Here" page indexes them by pageid, not when the link was added -- and again there is no data about the diff responsible to the link -- so can't interact with the person involved. 3) knowing where to click for what outcome on the "new link" notification is very confusing -- its not clear if I click on the page I will find the article I created, the article it was linked from, or the diff for the change. 4) This really comes down to me wanting the diff from these notifications so I can make this a socially fruitful interaction, instead of a static one from a distance. At the current level , I find them generally to be OK. Article talk-sides - which in my oppinion could be less strict about ONLY be deal with improvement suggestions. Questions are [usually] "a marker" that something essential MIGHT be lacking , in the article text. And as long as the discussion is "fruitful" I find it to be of benefit to Wikipedia  / There should though be a certain relation between the article and question. 1) Having to specifically check other projects for notifications of discussion (eg Hovercards to which I've been contributing), or edits made in non-English Wikipedia pages/Wikimedia Commons. I've only recently enabled Enhanced Notifications, so am hoping this might make thinks simpler in future. / 2) Not being able to view alerts for edits made to articles on my Watchlist, but having to rely on email notifications. / 3) Not being able to see either the size of the edit change in email Watchlist alerts. Minor ones I might not go and check on, but larger edits I might. Currently, I have no way of knowing what size of edit has been made  without visiting the article to check for differences.  It  might be helpful to have the first 150 characters of the edit shown in the email alert, too. The interface for showing other-site notifications is a bit clunky.