⚓ T239796 Provide URL parameter(s) to al

⚓ T239796 Provide URL parameter(s) to always load a wikitext editor
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Provide URL parameter(s) to always load a wikitext editor
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matmarex
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Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE
Dec 4 2019, 11:00 AM
2019-12-04 11:00:57 (UTC+0)
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VisualEditor
(To Triage)
VisualEditor-MediaWiki
(Backlog)
VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor
(Backlog)
MW-1.43-notes (1.43.0-wmf.21; 2024-09-03)
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Johannnes89
Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE
matmarex
Nardog
Description
For some use cases that require wikitext editing (ours is
T235753
), it’s necessary to be able to link to some URL that will always load some wikitext editor, regardless of user preferences or wiki setup.
Options:
action=edit
: May load VisualEditor.
action=submit
: Always loads an old wikitext editor (WikiEditor aka 2010 Wikitext Editor, or default MediaWiki
 aka 2003 Wikitext Editor), even if a new wikitext editor (2017 Wikitext Editor) is available. veaction=editsource : Loads 2017 Wikitext Editor if available, loads no editor at all otherwise. action=edit&veaction=editsource : Currently identical to action=edit , i. e. VisualEditor / 2017 Wikitext Editor ignores the veaction Related tasks: T121242: Provide a GET URL option on action=edit to force loading the wikitext editor, not the visual editor, regardless of preference – sounds similar, but I think that task is more specifically for getting an old wikitext editor, not any wikitext editor. T166597: Consolidate edit URLs – general cleanup Details Related Changes in Gerrit: Subject Repo Branch Lines +/- Allow &veaction=editsource to load 2017WTE regardless of user prefs mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor master +9 -10 Customize query in gerrit Related Objects Mentions Mentioned In T166597: Consolidate edit URLs T121242: Provide a GET URL option on action=edit to force loading the wikitext editor, not the visual editor, regardless of preference T370817: ve.collab: Problems joining a collab session started in new wikitext editor T309882: [Request] Standardize editor URls so that different editors should have unique URLs T235753: Step 1: Bail-out path for unsupported datatypes (impact: high) Mentioned Here T373152: [Regression 1.43wmf.20] The starting position of a line after heading is appearing indented inside VE T190765: 2017 wikitext editor doesn't load for some URL parameters, uses one of old editors instead (when VisualEditor is temporarily disabled) T121242: Provide a GET URL option on action=edit to force loading the wikitext editor, not the visual editor, regardless of preference T166597: Consolidate edit URLs T235753: Step 1: Bail-out path for unsupported datatypes (impact: high) Event Timeline Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE created this task. Dec 4 2019, 11:00 AM 2019-12-04 11:00:57 (UTC+0) Restricted Application added a subscriber: Aklapper View Herald Transcript Dec 4 2019, 11:00 AM 2019-12-04 11:00:57 (UTC+0) Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE mentioned this in T235753: Step 1: Bail-out path for unsupported datatypes (impact: high) Dec 4 2019, 11:01 AM 2019-12-04 11:01:35 (UTC+0) matmarex subscribed. Dec 4 2019, 9:42 PM 2019-12-04 21:42:52 (UTC+0) Comment Actions We should probably make option 4 work ( action=edit&veaction=editsource ). Task T190765 is a similar problem. That said, I don't understand why you need this. Could you just link to action=edit and let the user's default editor be used? If the page is unsuitable to be edited using VE, then it should be disabled there in some other way (e.g. using a custom content model, or disabling VE in that namespace, etc.). Jdlrobson mentioned this in T309882: [Request] Standardize editor URls so that different editors should have unique URLs Aug 4 2022, 8:35 PM 2022-08-04 20:35:53 (UTC+0) Nardog subscribed. Jul 8 2024, 2:52 PM 2024-07-08 14:52:38 (UTC+0) Nardog added a comment. Jul 8 2024, 2:56 PM 2024-07-08 14:56:33 (UTC+0) Comment Actions In T239796#5713831 @matmarex wrote: We should probably make option 4 work ( action=edit&veaction=editsource ). Task T190765 is a similar problem. That said, I don't understand why you need this. Could you just link to action=edit and let the user's default editor be used? If the page is unsuitable to be edited using VE, then it should be disabled there in some other way (e.g. using a custom content model, or disabling VE in that namespace, etc.). It sucks because there seems to be no way of temporarily using the 2017 editor akin to veaction=edit . I want to continue using WikiEditor most of the time, but also the 2017 editor some of the time. Currently this seems impossible without going to Preferences, finding the option, checking it, saving, and turning it off again once you're done—which is quite time-consuming and frustrating. matmarex mentioned this in T370817: ve.collab: Problems joining a collab session started in new wikitext editor Jul 23 2024, 7:58 PM 2024-07-23 19:58:18 (UTC+0) gerritbot added a comment. Aug 26 2024, 6:13 PM 2024-08-26 18:13:39 (UTC+0) Comment Actions Change #1066816 had a related patch set uploaded (by Bartosz Dziewoński; author: Bartosz Dziewoński): [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor@master] Allow &veaction=editsource to load 2017WTE regardless of user prefs gerritbot added a project: Patch-For-Review Aug 26 2024, 6:13 PM 2024-08-26 18:13:40 (UTC+0) matmarex added a comment. Aug 26 2024, 6:15 PM 2024-08-26 18:15:22 (UTC+0) Comment Actions I wanted to test a change affecting the new wikitext mode today ( T373152 ) and I finally got fed up with toggling my preferences. :) It's a small code change, but it affects lots of places. Everything seems to work as expected though. My test plan was: &veaction=editsource loads the new wikitext editor regardless of preferences &action=edit&veaction=editsource also loads the new wikitext editor (veaction=editsource takes precedence over action=edit) &action=submit&veaction=editsource loads the old wikitext editor (action=submit takes precedence over veaction=editsource) Edit mode switching within the editor works &veaction=editsource still works if the user disabled the visual editor in preferences (but currently it does not allow switching to visual mode – this could be changed but seems unimportant) Mobile editor opens its wikitext mode with &veaction=editsource matmarex claimed this task. Aug 26 2024, 6:15 PM 2024-08-26 18:15:33 (UTC+0) matmarex mentioned this in T121242: Provide a GET URL option on action=edit to force loading the wikitext editor, not the visual editor, regardless of preference Nardog awarded a token. Aug 26 2024, 6:44 PM 2024-08-26 18:44:46 (UTC+0) MusikAnimal awarded a token. Aug 26 2024, 7:03 PM 2024-08-26 19:03:44 (UTC+0) gerritbot added a comment. Aug 30 2024, 6:20 AM 2024-08-30 06:20:43 (UTC+0) Comment Actions Change #1066816 merged by jenkins-bot: [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor@master] Allow &veaction=editsource to load 2017WTE regardless of user prefs Maintenance_bot removed a project: Patch-For-Review Aug 30 2024, 6:30 AM 2024-08-30 06:30:16 (UTC+0) ReleaseTaggerBot added a project: MW-1.43-notes (1.43.0-wmf.21; 2024-09-03) Aug 30 2024, 7:00 AM 2024-08-30 07:00:36 (UTC+0) matmarex closed this task as Resolved Aug 30 2024, 3:15 PM 2024-08-30 15:15:49 (UTC+0) Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE added a comment. Sep 3 2024, 1:37 PM 2024-09-03 13:37:28 (UTC+0) Comment Actions Cool, thanks! (Regarding the mention of T235753 in the task description, I think in the meantime that task changed enough that we don’t need a follow-up to use the new URL parameter there – it looks like we rephrased the interface message from “in the wikitext” to “using the article editor”, so if it ends up opening VE, that’s probably fine.) Nardog added a project: User-notice Sep 25 2024, 10:03 AM 2024-09-25 10:03:39 (UTC+0) Comment Actions This is somewhat old news but it saves so much of developers' time I think it still deserves publicity. Something like: ⚒️ You may now temporarily use the 2017 wikitext editor, even if it's not enabled in your preferences, by adding veaction=editsource to the URL. Quiddity moved this task from To Triage to Announce in next Tech/News on the User-notice board. Sep 25 2024, 7:40 PM 2024-09-25 19:40:39 (UTC+0) Quiddity moved this task from Announce in next Tech/News to In current Tech/News draft on the User-notice board. Sep 27 2024, 12:01 AM 2024-09-27 00:01:49 (UTC+0) Johannnes89 subscribed. Oct 1 2024, 7:03 AM 2024-10-01 07:03:47 (UTC+0) Quiddity moved this task from In current Tech/News draft to Already announced/Archive on the User-notice board. Oct 2 2024, 9:54 PM 2024-10-02 21:54:09 (UTC+0) Maintenance_bot edited projects, added User-notice-archive ; removed User-notice Oct 12 2024, 10:30 PM 2024-10-12 22:30:22 (UTC+0) matmarex mentioned this in T166597: Consolidate edit URLs Jan 14 2025, 1:46 AM 2025-01-14 01:46:17 (UTC+0) Log In to Comment Content licensed under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike (CC BY-SA) 4.0 unless otherwise noted; code licensed under GNU General Public License (GPL) 2.0 or later and other open source licenses. By using this site, you agree to the Terms of Use, Privacy Policy, and Code of Conduct. 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