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Authored By
yuvipanda
Jan 28 2015, 2:47 AM
2015-01-28 02:47:06 (UTC+0)
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Description
NOTE:
The RfC on meta
has closed with approval of both proposed policies.
We currently do not have a process for this, and
@Cyberpower678
wants to take over Hedonil's tools. We should have one.
See
for discussion.
Also announced on
Discussion reboot
Straw dog proposals on wikitech
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2016-09-21 to 2016-10-12: Discuss and refine straw dog proposals on wikitech and meta
2016-11-20 to 2016-12-09:
Vote on adopting one or both proposals on meta
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Set up process / criteria for taking over abandoned tools
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scfc
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T87730#1000846
@coren
wrote:
The "real" solution remains to hound maintainers to make certain they are not alone with access to a tool if it starts getting some use - so that there is already someone with all the right accesses to take over at need, of course. :-)
Definitely. It may not solve the problem for already abandoned tools, but existing maintainers should be encouraged to recruit other trusted users from the beginning.
scfc
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T91585: Cleanup duplicate bibleversefinder tools
Apr 6 2015, 4:02 AM
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Qgil
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Apr 30 2015, 10:28 AM
2015-04-30 10:28:51 (UTC+0)
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Is someone planning to work on this task during the month of May? If so, please take it. If not, maybe it is better to lower its priority?
Technical13
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Apr 30 2015, 12:48 PM
2015-04-30 12:48:39 (UTC+0)
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T87730#1248601
@Qgil
wrote:
Is someone planning to work on this task during the month of May? If so, please take it. If not, maybe it is better to lower its priority?
@Qgil
- the only thing holding this up is waiting for someone to close the RfC on meta that has been idle for almost two months now. Do you think you could close it or find someone to do so? That would be great. Thanks.
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2015-04-30 16:17:23 (UTC+0)
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I don't know if just closing the rfc on meta is enough - this needs some
consensus from the tech community / toollabs admins / wikimedia foundation
ops.
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2015-04-30 23:47:38 (UTC+0)
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T87730#1249301
@yuvipanda
wrote:
I don't know if just closing the rfc on meta is enough - this needs some
consensus from the tech community / toollabs admins / wikimedia foundation
ops.
Perhaps, but it seems like that would be the logical next step to get this moving again. :)
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Jun 28 2015, 8:20 AM
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Is the
Cloud-Services
team considering this task as a July-September quarterly goal, at a team or individual level? Or is there anybody else willing to contribute time to push this task further in the next months?
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Jun 28 2015, 8:20 AM
2015-06-28 08:20:09 (UTC+0)
Qgil
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2015-08-24 11:42:05 (UTC+0)
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2015-08-26 22:19:29 (UTC+0)
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T87730#1249301
@yuvipanda
wrote:
I don't know if just closing the rfc on meta is enough - this needs some consensus from the tech community / toollabs admins / wikimedia foundation ops.
So somebody needs to drive finding consensus by reaching out to venues like
wikitech-l@
labs-l@
, operations@ and ask for providing more input on
Any on-wiki places or other venues that come to anybody's mind who should be contacted?
I'm also wondering how much this whole process is (not) similar/comparable to
(as we discuss defining and dealing with inactive code repositories in
T102920
).
Qgil
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@Aklapper
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I'm also wondering how much this whole process is (not) similar/comparable to
(as we discuss defining and dealing with inactive code repositories in
T102920
).
Very much - at least conceptually. I would expect that many cases of one would also involve the other, for that matter. Both conversations are parallel enough that merging them seems indicated.
Qgil
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Jan 12 2016, 7:41 AM
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Andrew
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T127994: Craft a policy for seizing abandoned tools and projects
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This task has been idling for about a year now, with the RfC going nowhere, and I don't remember any other requests apart from
T127494
. Is a formal process with lots of criteria and instructions to be followed to the letter still needed? If so, there needs to be someone who drives the discussion and distills it into a draft policy.
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T87730#2119736
@scfc
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This task has been idling for about a year now, with the RfC going nowhere, and I don't remember any other requests apart from
T127494
. Is a formal process with lots of criteria and instructions to be followed to the letter still needed? If so, there needs to be someone who drives the discussion and distills it into a draft policy.
T91585
is also blocked waiting on this project. I'd still like to be added as an admin for that tool.
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I have drafted two straw dog proposals and am proposing that they be discussed and refined until 2016-10-13. I would then like to call for a consensus vote by the Tool Labs developer community to adopt one or both policies.
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Would this task be a good topic for the
Wikimedia-Developer-Summit (2017)
? If so, the deadline to submit new proposals is next Monday, October 31:
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T87730#2748277
@Qgil
wrote:
Would this task be a good topic for the
Wikimedia-Developer-Summit (2017)
? If so, the deadline to submit new proposals is next Monday, October 31:
If the RfC discussion is still open in January then I will have failed the community and my team's quarterly goals.
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The
RfC vote on meta
has been closed by
@MarcoAurelio
The results of the vote are as follows:
The proposal to enact the "Tool Labs right to fork policy" and form a committee to help oversee the policy. With 29 votes in favor and 2 votes against the proposal passes with a 93.54% approval.
The proposal to enact the "Tool Labs abandoned tool policy" and form a committee to help oversee the policy. With 19 votes in favor and 4 votes against, the proposal passes with 82.60% of approval.
The result of this RFC has been concluded using an objective measure: counting votes and calculating the support, so whist this user has voted in this RFC, the results are not altered. —MarcoAurelio 16:04, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
Next steps will be to discuss the
initial structure for the volunteer committee to oversee the new policies
and
bootstrap that committee
. Minor changes to the policies themselves will be needed to incorporate the approved committee system.
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T154625: Facilitate Volunteer NDA application process for potential Tool Labs standards committee appointees
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The final step in this initial process is for me to write up the outcome of the various votes and polls and announce the formation of the initial committee. Then the committee can get started on their work to flesh out the skeleton policies and start working with the Tool Labs community. It would be nice to get these final parts resolved before the 2nd birthday of this task. :)
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Committee announced:
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Created
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and kicked off discussion of
T156075: Figure out how communications and meetings will work for the Tool Labs standards committee
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Jan 26 2017, 4:24 AM
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I'm going to declare victory on this task. The committee will have more work to do before they handle the first takeover request, but the basic policies and structure are in place. Thanks to everyone who helped move this forward, especially
@yuvipanda
for at least indirectly challenging me to see if it was a solvable problem.
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