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About long poems
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Hello everyone and happy new year. This is my first time coming to Wikisource. Wanna say, it's really nice here.
If I do edit, I'll be editing Georgian entries/poems, so I have a few questions on formatting and especially on long poems. Right now
დავითიანი
exists as a page written in Latin script. Itself, it's a long poem consisting of different chapters and one of the chapters is ALREADY separated as another page
სწავლა მოსწავლეთა
, which I just recently filled. So, uhm, what would be the best:
delete
სწავლა მოსწავლეთა
and keep
დავითიანი
to renew it
delete
დავითიანი
and add all chapters separately.
Another question is, if we choose the second option, should we like create a category called დავითიანი under დავით გურამიშვილის პოემები (poems of davit guramishvili) and have all chapters there?
Thank you in advance :D -
Solarkoid
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15:56, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
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As far as I can see we have a georgian section here, see
Category:Georgian
. Try to find somebody there and discuss this problem with him/her. If there is something to be deleted so mark the page with {{delete}} + reason, no problem for me or for my colleagues to do so. Cheers
-jkb-
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21:57, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
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Advanced Search "Pages in this language" is not working as described
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Hi, I tried a simple Advanced Search of "automobile" and then selected "English" from the drop down on
Pages in this language
But the search results still show source texts in other languages that are not English.
I noticed the Info icon next to the
Pages in this language
that describes how it should work, but it doesn't work as described. --
Thadguidry
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20:07, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
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Thadguidry
: This is a great point. There is a problem here with data integrity and I've fixed a few hundred pages but there are tens of thousands left to go. The problem is, if you go to any page (e.g.
Page:Ag séideadh agus ag ithe - Ua Laoghaire.djvu/24
), you can see page information (in this case:
) and one of the pieces of info stored here is the language (in this case, it's correct: "ga - Irish"). So when you are using the search by language feature, the MediaWiki software should only be searching pages that have the correct language. Unfortunately, since the default is English, unless someone deliberately changes a given page's information to another language, then many English-language pages will show up flooding results.
E.g.
Әкеміз
was in "en - English" until
just now
, when I changed it to "kk - Kazakh".
Justin (
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23:58, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
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To be more clear, I initiated the Advanced Search from the regular domain Wikisource URL. I did not initiate the search from the English subdomain Wikisource URL. By the way, I keep getting an error when I try to include URL's in my posting and replies here. It keeps saying I'm a new user or something and is treating them as external URL's and SPAM so I cannot give you the URL's I'm using to help. (Help Admin?) --
Thadguidry
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01:38, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
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Thadguidry
: Yes, I understood that you were searching
this
edition of Wikisource and not
en:
. Unfortunately, admins can't unilaterally make you able to be able to post links (without editing the edit filter itself): you'll have to make [x] edits and be a member here for [y] days in order for that restriction to be lifted. —
Justin (
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01:46, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
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So what are your next steps to resolve the search filtering problem? Or is this some mass corrections that need to be made to tens of thousands of pages and is really the only proper way to fix it? I.E. is it simply a problem because some users made pages in some wrong language category? --
Thadguidry
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02:00, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
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Mass corrections. The problem is that persons made pages not in the wrong language as such but that the new pages weren't marked with a language and that default is English. Search in a non-English language and you are liable to get better results but they will be incomplete and missing all of the pages that aren't properly marked. —
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02:40, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
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Tech News: 2021-02
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You can choose to be reminded when you have not added an edit summary. This can be done in your preferences. This could conflict with the
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You can link to specific log entries. You can get these links for example by clicking the timestamps in the log. Until now, such links to private log entries showed no entry even if you had permission to view private log entries. The links now show the entry.
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Admins can use the
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The filter editing interface now shows syntax errors while you type. This is similar to JavaScript pages. It also shows a warning for regular expressions that match the empty string. New warnings will be added later.
[3]
Oversighters
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[4]
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build new skins
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Bots using the API no longer watch pages automatically based on account preferences. Setting the
watchlist
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watch
will still work. This is to reduce the size of the watchlist data in the database.
[6]
Scribunto's
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[7]
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15:42, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
MediaWiki:Sp-contributions-footer
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Can somebody tell me why the
MediaWiki:Sp-contributions-footer
(and
MediaWiki:Sp-contributions-footer-anon
) do not work? We have both since years.
-jkb-
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20:45, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
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-jkb-
: Not sure what you mean. When I go to
Special:Contributions/-jkb-
, I see that footer displayed. —
Justin (
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08:19, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
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I wonder what is wrong. When I see the contribution pages (both registered user and IPs) I don't see it. When I go to other projects (either wikisource or wikipedie) everything is OK. As far as I can see I have no sdcripts here that could influence this...
-jkb-
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15:05, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
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-jkb-
: Maybe it's your skin? Shows up fine in Monobook. —
Justin (
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01:13, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
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I`m sure not. I use vector since years, and as I said, I have no problems with vector in other projects :-(
-jkb-
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17:32, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
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Tech News: 2021-03
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26 January at 07:00 (UTC)
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MassMessage
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MediaWiki Wikisource extension
installation
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Tracked in
Phabricator
Task T272163
Hi! The
MediaWiki Wikisource extension
is installed on all language-based Wikisources but not on old Wikisource. This extension now contains code to link to Wsexport in the MediaWiki navigation sidebar. So, it might make sense to install it here too in order to replace the current wsexport gadget. Is there anyone who has concerns about it?
Tpt
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20:31, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
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While
silence is approval
, I don't like it when no one responds to good faith questions like this. So to chime in: I
don't
have concerns and I don't see any reason why this edition of Wikisource would be exempt. —
Justin (
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22:14, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
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Honestly, I have no Idea what the extension could be :-); if people, who can judge it, have no objections, so do I.
-jkb-
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23:04, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
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+1 from me. —
Sam
Wilson
00:46, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
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It's now done.
Tpt
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13:58, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
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Importer ma thèse de doctorat depuis Wikiversité - Import my PhD thesis from Wikiversity
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Hello !
Juste un petit message pour savoir s’il est envisageable d'importer
ma thèse de doctorat
en provenance de Wikiversité dans le but de la publier sur Wikisource dès qu'elle sera terminée ?
Just a little message to know if it's possible to import my
PhD thesis from Wikiversity
in order to publish it on Wikisource as soon as it's finished?
Lionel Scheepmans
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09:10, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
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Lionel Scheepmans
: You should ask at
s:fr:
. —
Justin (
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11:59, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
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Done
Lionel Scheepmans
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13:16, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
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Share your feedback on the OCR improvements!
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Hello, everyone! We (the team responsible for the
Community Wishlist Survey
) have just launched the project for OCR improvements! With this project, we aim to improve the experience of using OCR tools on Wikisource. Please refer to
our project page
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We would then love if you could
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SGrabarczuk (WMF)
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20:08, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
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Moving Wikimania 2021 to a Virtual Event
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Hello. Apologies if you are not reading this message in your native language. Please help translate to your language. Thank you!
Wikimania will be a virtual event this year
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the ESEAP Core Organizing Team
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you
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process and other aspects of the event.
Please read the longer version of this announcement on wikimedia-l
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, 15:16, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
Project Grant Open Call
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This is the announcement for the
Project Grants program
open call that started on January 11, with the submission deadline of February 10, 2021.
This first open call will be focussed on Community Organizing proposals. A second open call focused on research and software proposals is scheduled from February 15 with a submission deadline of March 16, 2021.
For the Round 1 open call, we invite you to propose grant applications that fall under community development and organizing (offline and online) categories. Project Grant funds are available to support individuals, groups, and organizations to implement new experiments and proven ideas, from organizing a better process on your wiki, coordinating a campaign or editathon series to providing other support for community building. We offer the following resources to help you plan your project and complete a grant proposal:
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Program officers are also available to offer individualized proposal support upon request. Contact us if you would like feedback or more information.
We are excited to see your grant ideas that will support our community and make an impact on the future of Wikimedia projects. Put your idea into motion, and
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Please feel free to get in touch with questions about getting started with your grant application, or about serving on the Project Grants Committee. Contact us at projectgrants
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MediaWiki message delivery
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IPv6 addresses
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Special:Contributions
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[13]
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You can soon use Wikidata to link to pages on the multilingual Wikisource.
[14]
Often editors use a "non-breaking space" to make a gap between two items when reading but still show them together. This can be used to avoid a line break. You will now be able to add new ones via the special character tool in the 2010, 2017, and visual editors. The character will be shown in the visual editor as a space with a grey background.
[15]
[16]
Wikis use
abuse filters
to stop bad edits being made. Filter maintainers can now use syntax like
1.2.3.4 - 1.2.3.55
as well as the
1.2.3.4/27
syntax for IP ranges.
[17]
The
new version
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Future changes
Minerva
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MediaWiki:Protectedpagetext
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[18]
[19]
Cloud VPS
and
Toolforge
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On WIkidata links
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Heads up that they got
delayed
but for those who don't know, soon,
d:
will support linking to this edition of Wikisource. Follow
phab:T138332
for more. —
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08:33, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
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That's good to know. Thanks for keeping us informed :) --
Ooswesthoesbes
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15:35, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
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Tech News: 2021-06
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The
Wikipedia app
for Android now has watchlists and talk pages in the app.
[20]
Changes later this week
You can see edits to chosen pages on
Special:Watchlist
. You can add pages to your watchlist on every wiki you like. The
GlobalWatchlist
extension will come to Meta on 11 February. There you can see entries on watched pages on different wikis on the same page. The new watchlist will be found on
Special:GlobalWatchlist
on Meta. You can choose which wikis to watch and other preferences on
Special:GlobalWatchlistSettings
on Meta. You can watch up to five wikis.
[21]
The
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Future changes
When admins
protect
pages the form will use the
OOUI look
Special:Import
will also get the new look. This will make them easier to use on mobile phones.
[22]
[23]
Some services will not work for a short period of time from 07:00 UTC on 17 February. There might be problems with new
short links
, new translations, new notifications, adding new items to your
reading lists
or recording
email bounces
. This is because of database maintenance.
[24]
Last week
Tech News reported that the IP address
Cloud VPS
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Tech News: 2021-07
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[27]
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[28]
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The
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Tech News: 2021-08
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[29]
The
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Graphviz
DOT
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[30]
Problems
Editing a
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[31]
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Wikidata links are here!
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Following from
#On WIkidata links
, it is now possibile to link Wikidata items to pages on this site, finally! Many thanks to the people who made this possible.
Links can be added in the "Multilingual sites" box (not the "Wikisource" box), by typing "s" for "sources" or "m" for "multilingual wikisource"
example
).
Previously, we used
Template:Interwiki
to simulate a link; this template should no longer be used. On
pages that use it
, we need to add the link on Wikidata and then remove the template, I will start doing it but help is welcome.
Candalua
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08:30, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
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Actually it looks like no one asked for interlanguage links, so everything works
except for
interlanguage links, and now the developers ask for community consensus to enable interlanguage links as well. I obviously
Support
enabling interlanguage links pointing to other Wikisources (not Wikipediæ, as on other multilingual wikis), and hope that many other people will express their opinion. —
Tacsipacsi
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10:51, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
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Support
Candalua
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20:04, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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Support
--
Ooswesthoesbes
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20:28, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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Support
yep
-jkb-
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21:20, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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It was also announced by WMDE on
Wikidata Project Chat
. There a few points that came up from a Wikidata perspective are mentioned. You might have noticed that it isn't exactly implemented as announced, notably the question of the applicable language code is unresolved (
discussion with development team
).
As an initial Wikidata query:
finds most main pages and language categories. Sample Wikidata items:
d:Q21446599
for
Main Page/Aragonés
and
d:Q8258576
for
Category:Aragonés
Once more sitelinks are added, more query are possible. Don't hesitate to ask at
d:Wikidata:Request a query
Jura1
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11:29, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
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See the new
phab T275958
as well -
-jkb-
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18:46, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
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Two main pages?
edit
When creating items for main pages, I came across the following pairs:
Main Page/diq
and
Main_Page/Zazaki
Main_Page/ئۇيغۇرچە
and
Main Page/Uyghur
Maybe they can be merged, maybe not.
Jura1
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10:43, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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I merged them. Each one of the two had one page with more contents as well as more edits, so I made the guess that that would be the best one. The other redirects to it. --
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08:22, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
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Tech News: 2021-09
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Wikis using the
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through a magic word
. This can be used for welcome messages or userboxes.
A new version of the
VideoCutTool
is now available. It enables cropping, trimming, audio disabling, and rotating video content. It is being created as part of the developer outreach programs.
Problems
There was a problem with the
job queue
. This meant some functions did not save changes and mass messages were delayed. This did not affect wiki edits.
[32]
Some editors may not be logged in to their accounts automatically in the latest versions of Firefox and Safari.
[33]
Changes later this week
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new version
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Wikifunctions logo contest
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Hello. Please help to choose a design concept for the logo of the new Wikifunctions wiki. Voting starts today and will be open for 2 weeks. If you would like to participate, then
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Tech News: 2021-10
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Section translation
now works on Bengali Wikipedia. It helps mobile editors translate sections of articles. It will come to more wikis later. The first focus is active wikis with a smaller number of articles. You can
test it
and
leave feedback
Flagged revisions
now give admins the review right.
[34]
When someone links to a Wikipedia article on Twitter this will now show a preview of the article.
[35]
Problems
Many graphs have
JavaScript
errors. Graph editors can check their graphs in their browser's developer console after editing.
[36]
Changes later this week
The
new version
of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 March. It will be on all wikis from 11 March (
calendar
).
The
New Discussion
tool will soon be a new
discussion tools
beta feature for on most Wikipedias. The goal is to make it easier to start new discussions.
[37]
Future changes
There will be a number of changes to make it easier to work with templates. Some will come to the first wikis in March. Other changes will come to the first wikis in June. This is both for those who use templates and those who create or maintain them. You can
Reference Previews
will become a default feature on some wikis on 17 March. They will share a setting with
Page Previews
. If you prefer the Reference Tooltips or Navigation-Popups gadget you can keep using them. If so Reference Previews won't be shown.
[38]
[39]
New JavaScript-based functions will not work in
Internet Explorer 11
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Tech News: 2021-11
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desktop improvements
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search function
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test it early
Editors who put up banners or change site-wide
JavaScript
code should use the
client error graph
to see that their changes has not caused problems. You can
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Problems
Due to
database issues
the
Wikimedia Beta Cluster
was read-only for over a day.
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new version
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calendar
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newline
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carriage return
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12 wikis
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Quarry
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SQL
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Import
Fantasia original
from enWS
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Hi,
Fantasia original
has been determined to be out of scope for English Wikisource since it contains no English text (it is mainly musical notation in LilyPond with some Italian text), but provided I've understood correctly it should be within scope for mulWS. Could someone with +sysop please
import
it here? --
Xover
talk
14:26, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
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Well, I see no text there at all. Do we allow such musical notations here? Just a question.
-jkb-
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13:02, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
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-jkb-
: There is arguably some Italian there (the counter would be that it's strictly speaking musical notation that happens to use terms borrowed from Italian rather than Italian as such). But my assumption was that music-as-a-sort-of-language was within scope for mulWS, cf.
Category:Zxx (No linguistic content)
. --
Xover
talk
08:06, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
reply
Here are
musical categories
on multi.ws
. Does it belong to one of them? --
Zyephyrus
talk
22:06, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
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Yep, I know those categories. But: all pages in them are articles (i.e. text articles) about music. The page that should be importet has no text. I'm no musician, but the text are the common "instructions" how the music should be played. No text. If we would agree to import it we should first make an exemption on the page about the scope of this project - in
...This site is a repository of source texts ...
. Difficult. More oppinions?
-jkb-
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22:55, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
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N. B. Well, yes we have such pages in
Category:Zxx (No linguistic content)
, that is right. My question is if it is right. That's all.
-jkb-
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22:58, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
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There is some italian instructions not for Italian locutors but for musicians from all languages, so I think these musical notations have their place on multi-ws. Don't you think so? --
Zyephyrus
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21:40, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
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Correctly: it is a
musical notation with (short) instructions
, mostly in italian, but not every time; more over, and this is important for me, it is
no text
in the meaning of what is the scope of Wikisource. If somebody will to keep such pages he should better apply for a new WMF project for musical notations. My 2 cents.
-jkb-
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22:56, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
reply
And, it is unsourced and unlicensed; by the way, the notation is by José Viñas, a spanish componist, so if, the it could be kept in the es.wikisource as well (I don't think so...).
-jkb-
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23:05, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
reply
FWIW, I agree with -jkb- that the textual content there is negligible. In my opinion, the only sensible thing to do is to treat it as primarily
music notation
and then ask the question: "Is music notation within scope for mulWS?"
Incidentally, it is
definitely
out of scope for enWS and the minimum discussion period for the proposed deletion there expired long ago (IOW, it could get deleted there at any time). If there is any reasonable chance it could end up as being determined to be within scope here it would be good to import it temporarily and then rather delete it if it is determined to be outside scope. If it doesn't fit at mulWS there is no other Wikimedia project that will have it. --
Xover
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20:49, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
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Non-linguistic texts belong here and we already have musical texts. I'll import it. —
Justin (
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07:18, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
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Tech News: 2021-12
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There is a
Wikipedia app
for
KaiOS
phones. They don't have a touch screen so readers navigate with the phone keys. There is now a
simulator
so you can see what it looks like.
The
reply tool
and
new discussion tool
are now available as the "Discussion tools"
beta feature
in almost all wikis except German Wikipedia.
Problems
You will be able to read but not edit
twelve wikis
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23 March at 06:00 (UTC)
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The
new version
of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 March. It will be on all wikis from 25 March (
calendar
).
Syntax highlighting
colours will change to be easier to read. This will soon come to the
first wikis
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Flagged revisions
will no longer have multiple tags like "tone" or "depth". It will also only have one tier. This was changed because very few wikis used these features and they make the tool difficult to maintain.
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[46]
Gadgets and user scripts can access variables about the current page in JavaScript. In 2015 this was moved from
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mw.config
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Interwiki link to this web site
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Hello, I would like to know what can I use as syntax for a link pointing to this wikisource international project. If I use
s:
or [[wikisource:]] I iteratively go to a linguistic version...
Lionel Scheepmans
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13:46, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
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Lionel Scheepmans
:: Use
s:mul:
. —
Justin (
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Perfet @
Koavf
Thanks !
Lionel Scheepmans
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13:53, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
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Tech News: 2021-13
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Some very old
web browsers
don’t work
well with the Wikimedia wikis. Some old code for browsers that used to be supported is being removed. This could cause issues in those browsers.
[48]
IRC recent changes feeds
have been moved to a new server. Make sure all tools automatically reconnect to
irc.wikimedia.org
and not to the name of any specific server. Users should also consider switching to the more modern
EventStreams
[49]
Problems
When you move a page that many editors have on their watchlist the history can be split. It might also not be possible to move it again for a while. This is because of a
job queue
problem.
[50]
Some translatable pages on Meta could not be edited. This was because of a bug in the translation tool. The new MediaWiki version was delayed because of problems like this.
[51]
[52]
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The
new version
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Tech News: 2021-14
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Editors can collapse part of an article so you have to click on it to see it. When you click a link to a section inside collapsed content it will now expand to show the section. The browser will scroll down to the section. Previously such links didn't work unless you manually expanded the content first.
[53]
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The
citoid
API
will use for example
2010-12-XX
instead of
2010-12
for dates with a month but no days. This is because
2010-12
could be confused with
2010-2012
instead of
December 2010
. This is called level 1 instead of level 0 in the
Extended Date/Time Format
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The
new version
of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 April. It will be on all wikis from 8 April (
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PAWS
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Wiki Replicas
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JOINS
will no longer work from 28 April. There is
a new way to connect
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Universal Code of Conduct – 2021 consultations
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Universal Code of Conduct Phase 2
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Please help translate to your language
The
Universal Code of Conduct (UCoC)
provides a universal baseline of acceptable behavior for the entire Wikimedia movement and all its projects. The project is currently in Phase 2, outlining clear enforcement pathways. You can read more about the whole project on its
project page
Drafting Committee: Call for applications
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The Wikimedia Foundation is recruiting volunteers to join a committee to draft how to make the code enforceable. Volunteers on the committee will commit between 2 and 6 hours per week from late April through July and again in October and November. It is important that the committee be diverse and inclusive, and have a range of experiences, including both experienced users and newcomers, and those who have received or responded to, as well as those who have been falsely accused of harassment.
To apply and learn more about the process, see
Universal Code of Conduct/Drafting committee
2021 community consultations: Notice and call for volunteers / translators
edit
From 5 April – 5 May 2021 there will be conversations on many Wikimedia projects about how to enforce the UCoC. We are looking for volunteers to translate key material, as well as to help host consultations on their own languages or projects using suggested
key questions
. If you are interested in volunteering for either of these roles, please
in whatever language you are most comfortable.
To learn more about this work and other conversations taking place, see
Universal Code of Conduct/2021 consultations
--
Xeno (WMF)
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22:15, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
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Invitation to
m:Talk:Universal Code of Conduct/2021 consultations/Discussion
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I am interested in
hearing the input of Wikisource users about the application of the Universal Code of Conduct
, especially from the perspective of interactions
on Wikisource
Xeno (WMF)
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23:54, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
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Line numbering coming soon to all wikis
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Example
From April 15, you can enable line numbering in some wikitext editors - for now in the template namespace, coming to more namespaces soon. This will make it easier to detect line breaks and to refer to a particular line in discussions. These numbers will be shown if you enable the syntax highlighting feature (
CodeMirror extension
), which is supported in the
2010
and
2017
wikitext editors.
More information can be found on
this project page
. Everyone is invited to test the feature, and to give feedback
on this talk page
--
Johanna Strodt (WMDE)
15:09, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
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Email to the Wikimedia wikis are handled by groups of Wikimedia editors. These volunteer response teams now use
Znuny
instead of
OTRS
. The functions and interface remain the same. The volunteer administrators will give more details about the next steps soon.
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If you use
syntax highlighting
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[57]
[58]
[59]
Because of a technical change there could be problems with gadgets and scripts that have an edit summary area that looks
similar to this one
. If they look strange they should use
mw.loader.using('mediawiki.action.edit.styles')
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[60]
The
latest version
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The user group
oversight
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suppress
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Suggested Values
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[2]
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Timur Vorkul (WMDE)
14:09, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
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Looking for (ancient) Armenian speakers to help transcribe a text on Wikisource
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Recently the French Wikisource community started to work on the transcription of
Grammaire de Denys de Thrace
. So far you might wonder what the relation with Armenian speakers? Have a look to the full title instead:
GRAMMAIRE de DENIS DE THRACE, tirée de
deux manuscrits arméniens
de la bibliothèque du roi. Publiée en Grec,
en Arménien
et en Français, et précédée de considérations générales sur la formation progressive de la Science glossologique chez les anciens, et de quelques détails historiques sur Denis, sur son ouvrage et sur ses commentateurs ; PAR M. CIRBIED, membre de la société royale des antiquaires de france, professeur d’arménien à la bibliothèque du roi. extrait des mémoires de la dite société.
That's a bombastic title if you want my opinion. 😂 However it gives a good overview of what it contains. Especially, it make transparent that the book includes a huge load of material in Armenian. So the text is basically translation and comments of a text in Armenian, itself a translation of an ancient Greek text - also provided in the book. As the French Wikisource community has limited skills on Armenian, it makes the work of transcription far more complicated. Thus this call.
We are looking for people able to make transcriptions of text in Armenian alphabet. It would be even better if we could find people with ancient Armenian, since it is expectable that the text will likely contain oddity of the past. And if we can find someone who can moreover speak French or English to interact in discussions with the community, it would be perfect. Note that the main requirement is simply being able to read Armenian alphabet and to write it in simple Unicode transcription. In particular, there is no expectation that the potential helpers would make any work on the formatting that often require to deal with locale templates.
Please be bold in spreading the word wherever you think that could reach potentially interested Armenian speakers.
With all my warm love,
Psychoslave
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07:27, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
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Hello, @
Psychoslave
: I think, if you really want to find Armenian speakers (either for modern or for ancient Armenian) who might help you and your comrades on this task, then you should also create analogous topic in those Wikimedia projects where to find native Armenian speakers is expected to be more likely than here, that is — on Armenian-language projects. I think, you should consider creating similar topics on those projects:
on the Armenian Wikisource: Main Page:
s:hy:Գլխավոր_էջ
, the Forum (Scriptorium): I am not sure (I don't know Armenian) but it seems to me that it is:
s:hy:Վիքիդարան:Խորհրդարան
or, may be, asking for help in the Armenian Wikipedia would be helpful as well.
Good luck, and best regards,
Nigmont
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17:07, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
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[62]
[63]
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Japanese vandalism
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Since about march 2021 there are some IPs vandaling this site by creating pages with nonsense and not appropriate content (might be some 200 pages up to now). An overview see
User:-jkb-/check
. I'm not sure how to proceed this. Global block is a nonsense as it would effect other japanese projects as well. A range block here at oldwikisource: I'm afraid the range is too big, otherwise as there is a japanese wikisource it wouldn't be such a great problem. Otherwise we can block the IPs one by one just like I did up to now. What is your opinion?
-jkb-
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16:17, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
reply
See how these IPs behave after the blocks expire. We have no more administrator natively speaking Japanese. I would like to remind that pre-1926 publication does not automatically expire
Japanese copyright
, so limited Japanese texts belong here.--
Jusjih
talk
04:08, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
(with extremely basic Japanese skill)
reply
Yes, that's right. But you surely had a look at the stupid nonsense the IPs created and inserted here. That were no texts / documents for PD-US-1923-abroad/JA, but some tweets and spam for some discos, DJs and similar nonsense. By the way, the same range has been blocked global by Tegel, see
-jkb-
talk
09:11, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
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Logo stolen?
edit
Where ist the Wikisource logo (bottom left) ??
-jkb-
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18:21, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
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Tech News: 2021-18
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Twinkle
is a gadget on English Wikipedia. It can help with maintenance and patrolling. It can
now be used on other wikis
. You can get Twinkle on your wiki using the
twinkle-starter
GitHub repository.
Problems
The
content translation tool
did not work for many articles for a little while. This was because of a bug.
[64]
Some things will not work for about a minute on 5 May. This will happen
around 06:00 UTC
. This will affect the content translation tool and notifications among other things. This is because of an upgrade to avoid crashes.
[65]
Changes later this week
Reference Previews
will become a default feature on a number of wikis on 5 May. This is later than planned because of some changes. You can use it without using
Page Previews
if you want to. The earlier plan was to have the preference to use both or none.
[66]
[67]
The
new version
of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 May. It will be on all wikis from 6 May (
calendar
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Future changes
The
CSS
classes
.error
.warning
and
.success
do not work for mobile readers if they have not been specifically defined on your wiki. From June they will not work for desktop readers. This can affect gadgets and templates. The classes can be defined in
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Tech News: 2021-19
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The
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Tech News: 2021-20
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Recent changes
There is a new toolbar in
the Reply tool
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your preferences
[69]
[70]
[71]
Wikimedia
mailing lists
are being moved to
Mailman 3
. This is a newer version. For the
character encoding
to work it will change from
UTF-8
to
utf8mb3
[72]
[73]
An
earlier issue
of Tech News said that the
citoid
API
would handle dates with a month but no days in a new way. This has been reverted for now. There needs to be more discussion of how it affects different wikis first.
[74]
Changes later this week
MediaWiki:Pageimages-blacklist
will be renamed
MediaWiki:Pageimages-denylist
. The list can be copied to the new name. It will happen on 19 May for some wikis and 20 May for some wikis. Most wikis don't use it. It lists images that should never be used as thumbnails for articles.
[75]
The
new version
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Tech News: 2021-21
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The Wikimedia movement has been using
IRC
on a network called
Freenode
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Wikimedia IRC Group Contacts
have
decided
to move to the new
Libera Chat
network instead. This is not a formal decision for the movement to move all channels but most Wikimedia IRC channels will probably leave Freenode. There is a
migration guide
and ongoing Wikimedia
discussions about this
Changes later this week
The
new version
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Tech News: 2021-22
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Problems
There was an issue on the Vector skin with the text size of categories and notices under the page title. It was fixed last Monday.
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Tech News: 2021-23
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The
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calendar
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Future changes
The Wikimedia movement uses
Phabricator
for technical tasks. This is where we collect technical suggestions, bugs and what developers are working on. The company behind Phabricator will stop working on it. This will not change anything for the Wikimedia movement now. It could lead to changes in the future.
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[79]
Searching on Wikipedia will find more results in some languages. This is mainly true for when those who search do not use the correct
diacritics
because they are not seen as necessary in that language. For example searching for
Bedusz
doesn't find
Będusz
on German Wikipedia. The character
isn't used in German so many would write
instead. This will work better in the future in some languages.
[80]
The
CSRF token parameters
in the
action API
were changed in 2014. The old parameters from before 2014 will stop working soon. This can affect bots, gadgets and user scripts that still use the old parameters.
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Universal Code of Conduct News – Issue 1
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Universal Code of Conduct News
Issue 1, June 2021
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Welcome to the first issue of
Universal Code of Conduct News
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Please note, this is the first issue of UCoC Newsletter which is delivered to all subscribers and projects as an announcement of the initiative. If you want the future issues delivered to your talk page, village pumps, or any specific pages you find appropriate, you need to
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You can help us by translating the newsletter issues in your languages to spread the news and create awareness of the new conduct to keep our beloved community safe for all of us. Please
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Affiliate consultations
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Logged-in users on the mobile web can choose to use the
advanced mobile mode
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Language links on Wikidata now works for
multilingual Wikisource
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Future changes
In the future we
can't show the IP
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showing the IP to those who need to see it
could work.
German Wikipedia, English Wikivoyage and 29 smaller wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on 22 June. This is planned between 5:00 and 5:30 UTC.
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Please provide input for a
Global Conversation on 26-27 June 2021
about the Movement Charter drafting committee
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Hello, I'm one of the Movement Strategy and Governance facilitators working on community engagement for the
Movement Charter
initiative. I'd like to invite users to participate in
an upcoming Global Conversation on 26-27 June 2021
about the Movement Charter drafting committee. Feel free to comment here in any language and see the above links for details (a longer message can be viewed
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phabricator T275958
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The phabricator T275958 (
= Enable interlanguage links from multilingual Wikisource to other Wikisources) has been moved to the phase testing.
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The
otrs-member
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vrt-permissions
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15:49, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
Today's changes have broken my editor - please help
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This applies to the
Page
namespace only. The edit box is now much larger than my screen size and there is now (as of today) no way that I can see of altering the size. I need frequent access to the
Special characters
feature, and there is no way that I can see of getting that feature and the edited text on the screen at the same time, especially when the text is near the bottom of the page. Please help.
Jan1nad
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22:59, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
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Jan1nad
: So far as I know there has not been any software changes today. New versions of MediaWiki will usually be deployed on Tuesday or Wednesday, and never normally on a weekend (unless it's a critical bugfix or something like that). Have you tried different web browsers? Or tested when logged out (to make sure it's not something caused by your user scripts and things like that)? Are all page elements otherwise the right size? In case you have turned on your web browser's page zoom function, I mean.
Xover
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17:22, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
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Xover
: The
flex
attribute has been added few days ago to some parts of the interface resulting with stretching of the edit area. @
Jan1nad
: Maybe adding
these changes
to
your personal commons.css
would help you?
Ankry
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18:42, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
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Ankry
: Crap. Did that patch go out already? I thought it was still pending for the next deployment. @
Jan1nad
: If it’s the change Ankry mentioned, I’m sure the developers would appreciate information about your web browser including version number, as well as a description of what exactly changed and what stayed the same (for example, did the scan image change size or just the text field. How did that look before?) Do you use any special settings in your web browser or user scripts, like very small or very large font size, page zoom, custom font face, or anything like that?
Xover
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18:54, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
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Xover
: I use a bit ancient FF, but it does not matter: I have made tests on the newest Opera and Chrome and the result is the same. With non-zero
flex
the edit areas (header+main+footer) are streched to the full scan height. And as the scan height almost
always
exceeds the window size, the header and the footer cannot be seen together on the screen (also the bottom part of the main textarea is out of the screen is the toolbar area is visible). Switching between them scrolls the whole screen which is very annoying. I use the vertical scan position where the scan width is always the same fraction of the screen width, so the result is independent on font size and/or page zoom. In most standard cases about 70-80% of the scan is visible, and it can be scrolled using a mouse/touchpad when needed. However, there are edge cases like
this
or
this
. People using horizontal scan position also
report problems
. I think, that the size of the edit area should remain configurable as people has various monitors and they use various screen sizes. Editing on an old 1024x768 laptop is different than on a 4k TV-set. And there is a lot in between. Some screenshots:
standard interface after recent changes
and
my interface with the CSS changes applied
(note: I am using monobook & the old toolbar, but they do not matter here - the effect is independent on toolbar & skin).
Ankry
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21:28, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
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Ankry
: Ah, thanks. That's an excellent description that should let them understand what the issue is. In terms of a solution… if the separators between the header/main/footer text fields were made into drag handles that could be resized in the vertical (only vertical) direction, and the size you set is remembered between pages, would that solve the issue for you? I ask because I believe that's already planned as the next step for this.
Xover
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06:17, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
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Do you mean that the total height of all fields will be constant, equal to the full scan height, and I can move the separators only? I think this would be OK for me. But it may be still a problem for users who do not use header/footer view or who use horizontal view. Unless the total height of the edit fields can also be changed. And what about cases when scan height changes significantly between pages? We are sometimes proofreading novels basing on their newspaper editions (eg. if no book edition exists). And the newspaper clippings vary in size (well, proofreading whole newspapers is often pointless and proofreading 4-6 column newspaper pages is very hard, so we use clippings).
Ankry
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08:25, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
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I could be wrong, but I believe the current plan is to allow resizing the entire PRP container, including the image. With Flexbox layout the header and footer fields, if visible, should then grow or shrink proportional to the size of the main text field (the ratio is currently 1:6 I believe). The problem with horizontal layout reported on plWS is, I believe, a different one that won't be solved (I don't think) by the patch to allow resizing.
Xover
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08:58, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
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Xover
: It's informations that you asked me: web browser - Chrome 90.0.4430.210, MediaWiki skin is Vector. Hitherto I didn't use any scripts and styles that could affect the edit area. I use horizontal scan position. Hitherto a page, edit area and scan area were autonomous and I might scrool all areas autonomous. Earlier when it was possible, I set up an edit area for 80 columns and 15 rows. Now an edit area is bigger and rigid. If you scroll just text area you'll scroll whole page. Today I use user's style and I force size of edit area using #wpTextbox1 {max-height:10em !important;} and it helped. I use Ankry's changes too, just in case. My experiences on both pl and enWS are the same.
Tommy Jantarek
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17:23, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
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Tommy Jantarek
: Thanks! The ability to resize the text field
vertically
(not horizontally) is coming. I think it's still being tested but hasn't been merged yet, so exact timing for when we can expect it to be deployed is unclear as yet. As it currently stands you will not be able to resize it horizontally (make the text field narrower, to for example 80 columns). Will that be sufficient to resolve your issue or is the ability to set a specific width critical to your workflow?
Regarding the scrolling issue… Could it be that the larger size of the text field meant that it could now fit all the text in it without needing to scroll? If a text field has no overflowing text, and thus no scroll bars, and you initiate a scroll with the mouse pointer over it, the web browser will usually infer that you meant to scroll the whole page and not the text field. I was able to reproduce that behaviour with Chrome 91, but so long as the text fields had scroll bars they scrolled independently for me. Would it be possible for you to test that out by simply pasting a lot of text into a text field (so there's more text than can fit its current size) and see if that makes it scroll independently? If this is the explanation for the scrolling issue you experienced I would be hopeful the upcoming changes to enable resizing will alleviate it.
Xover
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05:59, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
reply
Xover
is the ability to set a specific width critical to your workflow?
- No, I use only horizontaly view and height of textarea is important to my work.
Could it be that the larger size of the text field meant that it could now fit all the text in it without needing to scroll?
- Exactly, and I tested it in the way you adviced me. I pasted a lot of text and all scrolled indepedently on beginning. Whole page scrolls just in the end of text. It seems that this height of text area is too big just for me and because of it textbox height set on 10em helped me.
Tommy Jantarek
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10:55, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
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Tommy Jantarek
: Thanks. The scrolling stuff is web browser behaviour that we can't really control, but the good news is that it sounds like the ability to adjust the height of the text field should solve your problems and make the scrolling thing much less likely to occur.
Xover
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12:52, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
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Ankry
Thank you for the suggestion, I tried the CSS - it seemed to make no difference to me. For info, I'm using Windows 10 Firefox on a laptop (no mouse) with zoom set to 110%. All I'm looking for is for the behaviour of the edit box to revert so that it can be resized vertically by dragging (again). Other namespaces (including this one) continue to behave as before.
Jan1nad
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18:51, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
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Jan1nad
: The developers are working on a patch to enable vertical resizing. It is still in testing and not merged yet, so the timing for when it will be deployed is not yet clear. But provided I've understood your problem correctly, that change should address it when it lands.
Xover
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06:05, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
reply
Thank you.
Jan1nad
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11:23, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
reply
Is there any expected date for this change yet?
Jan1nad
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12:22, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
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Server switch
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The
Wikimedia Foundation
tests the switch between its first and secondary data centers. This will make sure that Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia wikis can stay online even after a disaster. To make sure everything is working, the Wikimedia Technology department needs to do a planned test. This test will show if they can reliably switch from one data centre to the other. It requires many teams to prepare for the test and to be available to fix any unexpected problems.
Unfortunately, because of some limitations in
MediaWiki
, all editing must stop while the switch is made. We apologize for this disruption, and we are working to minimize it in the future.
You will be able to read, but not edit, all wikis for a short period of time.
You will not be able to edit for up to an hour on Tuesday, 29 June 2021. The test will start at
14:00 UTC
(07:00 PDT, 10:00 EDT, 15:00 WEST/BST, 16:00 CEST, 19:30 IST, 23:00 JST, and in New Zealand at 02:00 NZST on Wednesday 30 June).
If you try to edit or save during these times, you will see an error message. We hope that no edits will be lost during these minutes, but we can't guarantee it. If you see the error message, then please wait until everything is back to normal. Then you should be able to save your edit. But, we recommend that you make a copy of your changes first, just in case.
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Background jobs will be slower and some may be dropped. Red links might not be updated as quickly as normal. If you create an article that is already linked somewhere else, the link will stay red longer than usual. Some long-running scripts will have to be stopped.
There will be code freezes for the week of June 28. Non-essential code deployments will not happen.
This project may be postponed if necessary. You can
read the schedule at wikitech.wikimedia.org
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Please share this information with your community.
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Recent changes
Wikis with the
Growth features
now can
configure Growth features directly on their wiki
. This uses the new special page
Special:EditGrowthConfig
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Wikisources have a new
OCR tool
. If you don't want to see the "extract text" button on Wikisource you can add
.ext-wikisource-ExtractTextWidget { display: none; }
to your
common.css page
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Problems
You will be able to read but not edit the Wikimedia wikis for a few minutes on 29 June. This is planned at
14:00 UTC
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The
new version
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Future changes
Threshold for stub link formatting
thumbnail size
and
auto-number headings
can be set in preferences. They are expensive to maintain and few editors use them. The developers are planning to remove them. Removing them will make pages load faster. You can
read more and give feedback
A toolbar will be added to the
Reply tool
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Batch uploads of Bodleian scans of the Red Book of Hergest
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Hi all! (Also posted on Commons) I've uploaded a couple of test images in
Commons:Category:Red Book of Hergest: scans by the Bodleian Library
, using Pattypan. This is a 14th c. Welsh language manuscript. Can someone verify and ok the batch uploading of a further 720 images pls; I welcome any suggestions! I know they could be done on CC0, but the Bodleian Library, Oxford have requested CC-BY for these and I think we should respect that. I'll then create a DjVu of all the images on
cy-wikisource
; but I also need them as individual pages/images too, so that the resolution isn't compromised on individual WP articles. The text is already done, and good to go. Thanks!
Llywelyn2000
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05:49, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
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Update
I've now uploaded the scans here
, with categories. Does any one have a contact email at the Internet Archives pls, so they can pdf them? Any other suggestions? Thanks! PS
The Red Book of Hergest
is the most important manuscript in the Welsh Language.
Llywelyn2000
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Recent changes
AutoWikiBrowser
is a tool to make repetitive tasks easier. It now uses
JSON
Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage
has moved to
Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPageJSON
and
Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Config
Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage/Version
has moved to
Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage/VersionJSON
. The tool will eventually be configured on the wiki so that you don't have to wait until the new version to add templates or regular expression fixes.
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Problems
InternetArchiveBot
helps saving online sources on some wikis. It adds them to
Wayback Machine
and links to them there. This is so they don't disappear if the page that was linked to is removed. It currently has a problem with linking to the wrong date when it moves pages from
archive.is
to
web.archive.org
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The tool to
find, add and remove templates
will be updated. This is to make it easier to find and use the right templates. It will come to the first wikis on 7 July. It will come to more wikis later this year.
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There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Future changes
Some Wikimedia wikis use
Flagged Revisions
or pending changes. It hides edits from new and unregistered accounts for readers until they have been patrolled. The auto review action in Flagged Revisions will no longer be logged. All old logs of auto-review will be removed. This is because it creates a lot of logs that are not very useful.
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Some Muscogee-language texts to be transcribed and uploaded
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I have come across
a collection of public domain texts in the Muscogee language, but they are in PDF format and require transcription and uploading. Could someone help out with this? --
Sailor Ceres
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00:54, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
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If you want to transfer it into text so you need an
OCR
application. I guess I saw an OCR for Muscogee, you can google it. But anyway, using it you need somebod who speaks the language well. Then it ould be easy.
-jkb-
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09:20, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
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Converting to text can be well done on Wikisource—this is what
ProofreadPage
is for. —
Tacsipacsi
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22:53, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
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Transwiki
edit
Could anyone do
this request
for pages which should be imported to Multilingual Wikisource⸮
217.117.125.83
09:12, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
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Done
. I did not assign edits to local users where the named user exists locally as I was unsure if any conflict. Should
Wp/yrk/Нюдя ӈэдаханд
and
Wp/yrk/Сава нум мальӈгана
be renamed by dropping "Wp/yrk/"?--
Jusjih
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03:54, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
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I categorized these pages to the proper language category, their language is
Nenets languages
(code yrk). Regarding dropping "Wp/yrk/": in my opinion, it should be done, because this prefix has sence for the Incubator but has no sence for the multilingual Wikisource: there is no policy and common practice here to prefix language pages with language codes, to categorize in the proper language category or its sub-category is well enough. --
Nigmont
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09:58, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
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Done
moving
Wp/yrk/Нюдя ӈэдаханд
and
Wp/yrk/Сава нум мальӈгана
to
Нюдя ӈэдаханд
and
Сава нум мальӈгана
. Yet who, when, and where were both works they made?--
Jusjih
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23:52, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
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Multilingual Wikisource?
edit
Hello, why do we have multilingual Wikisource when we have separate language Wikisources?
Lightbluerain
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08:07, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
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Lightbluerain
: Multilingual Wikisource is for languages that don’t have separate language Wikisources; it’s similar to
Incubator
but for Wikisources. —
Tacsipacsi
talk
15:35, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
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Template:PD-US-1923-abroad
also explains why separate language Wikisources cannot host some works.--
Jusjih
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23:55, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
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Alright, thanks.
Lightbluerain
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06:52, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
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In addition to the above, there are also some works which are themselves multilingual. —
Justin (
ko
vf
17:55, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
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The tool to
find, add and remove templates
was updated. This is to make it easier to find and use the right templates. It was supposed to come to the first wikis on 7 July. It was delayed to 12 July instead. It will come to more wikis later this year.
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Special:UnconnectedPages
lists pages that are not connected to Wikidata. This helps you find pages that can be connected to Wikidata items. Some pages should not be connected to Wikidata. You can use the magic word
__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__
on pages that should not be listed on the special page.
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Changes later this week
The
new version
of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 July. It will be on all wikis from 22 July (
calendar
).
Future changes
How media is structured in the
parser's
HTML output will soon change. This can affect bots, gadgets, user scripts and extensions. You can
. You can test it on
Testwiki
or
Testwiki 2
The parameters for how you obtain
tokens
in the MediaWiki API were changed in 2014. The old way will no longer work from 1 September. Scripts, bots and tools that use the parameters from before the 2014 change need to be updated. You can
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new version
of MediaWiki came to the Wikimedia wikis the week before last week. This was not in Tech News because there was no newsletter that week.
Changes later this week
The
new version
of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 27 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 28 July. It will be on all wikis from 29 July (
calendar
).
Future changes
If you use the
Monobook skin
you can choose to switch off
responsive design
on mobile. This will now work for more skins. If
⧼monobook-responsive-label⧽
is unticked you need to also untick the new
preference
Enable responsive mode
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אבינו
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Export to
hewikisource
or not? --
Liuxinyu970226
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05:58, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
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Only the users there may decide.--
Jusjih
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Movement Charter Drafting Committee candidates needed
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Movement Strategy announces the Call for Candidates for the Movement Charter Drafting Committee. The Call opens August 2, 2021 and closes September 1, 2021.
This Committee will have around 15 members. It is expected to represent diversity in the Movement. Diversity includes gender, language, geography, and experience. This comprises participation in projects, affiliates, and the Wikimedia Foundation.
Will you help move Wikimedia forward in this important role? Submit your candidacy
here
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Thank you,
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Recent changes
If your wiki uses markup like

without the required
dir
attribute, then these will no longer work in 2 weeks. There is a short-term fix that can be added to your local wiki's Common.css page, which is explained at
T287701
. From now on, all usages should include the full attributes, for example:

. This also applies to some other HTML tags, such as
span
or
code
. You can find existing examples on your wiki that need to be updated, using the instructions at
T287701
Reminder: Wikimedia has
migrated to the Libera Chat IRC network
, from the old Freenode network. Local documentation should be updated.
Problems
Last week, all wikis had slow access or no access for 30 minutes. There was a problem with generating dynamic lists of articles on the Russian Wikinews, due to the bulk import of 200,000+ new articles over 3 days, which led to database problems. The problematic feature has been disabled on that wiki and developers are discussing if it can be fixed properly.
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Changes later this week
When adding links to a page using
VisualEditor
or the
2017 wikitext editor
disambiguation pages
will now only appear at the bottom of search results. This is because users do not often want to link to disambiguation pages.
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The
new version
of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 3 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 4 August. It will be on all wikis from 5 August (
calendar
).
Future changes
The
team of the Wikipedia app for Android
is working on communication in the app. The developers are working on how to talk to other editors and get notifications. You can
. They are looking for users who want to
test the plans
. Any editor who has an Android phone and is willing to download the app can do this.
The
Beta Feature
for Discussion tools will be updated in the coming weeks. You will be able to
subscribe to individual sections
on a talk page at more wikis. You can test this now by adding
?dtenable=1
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Tech News: 2021-32
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Problems
You can read but not edit 17 wikis for a few minutes on 10 August. This is planned at
05:00 UTC
. This is because of work on the database.
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Changes later this week
The
Wikimania Hackathon
will take place remotely on 13 August, starting at 5:00 UTC, for 24 hours. You can participate in many ways. You can still propose projects and sessions.
The
new version
of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 10 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 11 August. It will be on all wikis from 12 August (
calendar
).
The old CSS

will not be supported after 12 August. Instead, templates and pages should use

. Please help to replace any existing uses on your wiki. There are global-search links available at
T287962
Future changes
The Wikipedia Library
is a place for Wikipedia editors to get access to sources. There is an
extension
which has a new function to tell users when they can take part in it. It will use notifications. It will start pinging the first users in September. It will ping more users later.
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Vue.js
will be the
JavaScript
framework for MediaWiki in the future.
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Tech News: 2021-33
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Latest
tech news
from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.
Translations
are available.
Recent changes
You can add language links in the sidebar in the
new Vector skin
again. You do this by connecting the page to a Wikidata item. The new Vector skin has moved the language links but the new language selector cannot add language links yet.
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Problems
There was a problem on wikis which use the Translate extension. Translations were not updated or were replaced with the English text. The problems have been fixed.
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Changes later this week
revision tag
will soon be added to edits that add links to
disambiguation pages
. This is because these links are usually added by accident. The tag will allow editors to easily find the broken links and fix them. If your wiki does not like this feature, it can be
hidden
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Would you like to help improve the information about tools? Would you like to attend or help organize a small virtual meetup for your community to discuss the list of tools? Please get in touch on the
Toolhub Quality Signal Sessions
talk page. We are also looking for feedback
from tool maintainers
on some specific questions.
In the past, edits to any page in your user talk space ignored your
mute list
, e.g. sub-pages. Starting this week, this is only true for edits to your talk page.
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The
new version
of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 August. It will be on all wikis from 19 August (
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Universal Code of Conduct - Enforcement draft guidelines review
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The
Universal Code of Conduct Phase 2 drafting committee
would like comments about the
enforcement draft guidelines
for the
Universal Code of Conduct
(UCoC). This review period is planned to begin 17 August 2021.
Community and staff members collaborated to develop these draft guidelines based on
consultations, discussions, and research
. These guidelines
are not final
but you can help move the progress forward. Provide comments about these guidelines by 17 October 2021. The committee will be revising the guidelines based upon community input.
Everyone may share comments in a number of places. Facilitators welcome comments in any language on the
draft review talk page
or by email. Comments can also be shared on talk pages of translations, at local discussions, or during round-table discussions and conversation hours.
There are planned live discussions about the UCoC enforcement draft guidelines:
Wikimania 2021 session
- 16 August @ 11:00 UTC - 11:45 UTC (recording of the session)
Conversation hours
- 24 August, 31 August, 7 September @ 03:00 UTC & 14:00 UTC
Roundtable calls
- 18 September @ 03:00 UTC & 15:00 UTC
The facilitation team supporting this review period hopes to reach a large number of communities. Having a shared understanding is important. If you do not see a conversation happening in your community, please organize a discussion. Facilitators can assist you in setting up the conversations.
Discussions will be summarized and presented to the drafting committee every two weeks. The summaries will be published
here
Please let me know if you have any questions about the draft, the community consultation or the UCoC.
Many thanks! --
Civvi (WMF)
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20:24, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
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Update on the OCR Improvements
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Hello! The
OCR Improvements
are complete. We, the
Community Tech
team, are grateful for your feedback from the beginning to the last stage when we were finalizing the interface.
Engine improvements
edit
OCR menu in toolbar
Reliability
Prior to our work, the OCR tools were separate gadgets. We have added "Wikimedia OCR." It is available under one icon inside the toolbar on all Wikisource wikis. This tool supports two other OCR tools, Tesseract and Google OCR. We expect these tools to be more stable. We will maintain Wikimedia OCR.
The gadgets will remain available. The communities will have sovereignty over when to enable or disable these.
Speed
Prior to this work, transcription would take upwards of 40 seconds. Our improvements average a transcription time under 4 seconds.
Advanced Tools improvements
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Multiple-language support
Documents with multiple languages can be transcribed in a new way.
Open the
Advanced Options
Select the Languages (optional) field
Search for and enter the languages in order of prevalence in the document.
Cropping tool / Multi-column support
We have included a Cropper tool. It allows to select regions to transcribe on pages with complicated layouts.
Discoverability and accessibility of OCR
We have added an interface for new users. It is pulsating blue dots over the new icon in the toolbar. The new interface explains what OCR means and what transcription means in Wikisource.
We believe that you will do even more great things because of these changes. We also hope to see you at the 2022 Community Wishlist Survey. Thanks you again for all your opinions and support.
Please share your opinions on the project talk page!
NRodriguez (WMF)
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SGrabarczuk (WMF)
01:57, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
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Tech News: 2021-34
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Latest
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Recent changes
The
Score
extension (

notation) has been re-enabled on public wikis and upgraded to a newer version. Some musical score functionality may no longer work because the extension is only enabled in "safe mode". The security issue has been fixed and an
advisory published
Problems
You will be able to read but not edit
some wikis
for a few minutes on 25 August. This will happen around
06:00 UTC
. This is for database maintenance. During this time, operations on the CentralAuth will also not be possible.
Changes later this week
The
new version
of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 August. It will be on all wikis from 26 August (
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Read-only reminder
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A maintenance operation will be performed on
Wednesday August 25 06:00 UTC
. It should only last for a few minutes.
This will affect your wiki as well as 11 other wikis. During this time, publishing edits will not be possible.
Also during this time, operations on the CentralAuth will not be possible (GlobalRenames, changing/confirming e-mail addresses, logging into new wikis, password changes).
For more details about the operation and on all impacted services, please check
on Phabricator
A banner will be displayed 30 minutes before the operation.
Please help your community to be aware of this maintenance operation. Thank you!
20:35, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Tech News: 2021-35
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Latest
tech news
from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.
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Recent changes
Some musical score syntax no longer works and may needed to be updated, you can check
Category:Pages with score rendering errors
on your wiki for a list of pages with errors.
Problems
Musical scores were unable to render lyrics in some languages because of missing fonts. This has been fixed now. If your language would prefer a different font, please file a request in Phabricator.
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Changes later this week
The parameters for how you obtain
tokens
in the MediaWiki API were changed in 2014. The old way will no longer work from 1 September. Scripts, bots and tools that use the parameters from before the 2014 change need to be updated. You can
about this.
The
new version
of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 31 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 September. It will be on all wikis from 2 September (
calendar
).
Future changes
You will be able to read but not edit
Commons
for a few minutes on 6 September. This will happen around
05:00 UTC
. This is for database maintenance.
All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes in the week of 13 September. More information will be published in Tech News later. It will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks.
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Tech News: 2021-36
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Latest
tech news
from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.
Translations
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Recent changes
The wikis that have
Growth features
deployed have been part of A/B testing since deployment, in which some newcomers did not receive the new features. Now, all of the newcomers on 21 of the smallest of those wikis will be receiving the features.
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Changes later this week
There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Future changes
In 2017, the provided jQuery library was upgraded from version 1 to 3, with a compatibility layer. The migration will soon finish, to make the site load faster for everyone. If you maintain a gadget or user script, check if you have any JQMIGRATE errors and fix them, or they will break.
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Last year, the Portuguese Wikipedia community embarked on an experiment to make log-in compulsory for editing. The
impact report of this trial
is ready. Moving forward, the Anti-Harassment Tools team is looking for projects that are willing to experiment with restricting IP editing on their wiki for a short-term experiment.
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The 2022 Community Wishlist Survey will happen in January
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Hello everyone,
We hope all of you are as well and safe as possible during these trying times! We wanted to share some news about a change to the Community Wishlist Survey 2022. We would like to hear your opinions as well.
Summary:
We will be running the
Community Wishlist Survey
2022 in January 2022. We need more time to work on the 2021 wishes. We also need time to prepare some changes to the Wishlist 2022. In the meantime, you can use a
dedicated sandbox to leave early ideas for the 2022 wishes
Proposing and wish-fulfillment will happen during the same year
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In the past, the
Community Tech
team has run the Community Wishlist Survey for the following year in November of the prior year. For example, we ran the
Wishlist for 2021
in November 2020. That worked well a few years ago. At that time, we used to start working on the Wishlist soon after the results of the voting were published.
However, in 2021, there was a delay between the voting and the time when we could start working on the new wishes. Until July 2021, we were working on wishes from the
Wishlist for 2020
We hope having the Wishlist 2022 in January 2022 will be more intuitive. This will also give us time to fulfill more wishes from the 2021 Wishlist.
Encouraging wider participation from historically excluded communities
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We are thinking how to make the Wishlist easier to participate in. We want to support more translations, and encourage under-resourced communities to be more active. We would like to have some time to make these changes.
A new space to talk to us about priorities and wishes not granted yet
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We will have gone 365 days without a Wishlist. We encourage you to approach us. We hope to hear from you in the
talk page
, but we also hope to see you at our bi-monthly Talk to Us meetings! These will be hosted at two different times friendly to time zones around the globe.
We will begin our first meeting
September 15th at 23:00 UTC
. More details about the agenda and format coming soon!
Brainstorm and draft proposals before the proposal phase
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If you have early ideas for wishes, you can use the
new Community Wishlist Survey sandbox
. This way, you will not forget about these before January 2022. You will be able to come back and refine your ideas. Remember, edits in the sandbox don't count as wishes!
Feedback
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What should we do to improve the Wishlist pages?
How would you like to use our new
sandbox?
What, if any, risks do you foresee in our decision to change the date of the Wishlist 2022?
What will help more people participate in the Wishlist 2022?
Answer on the
talk page
(in any language you prefer) or at our Talk to Us meetings.
SGrabarczuk (WMF)
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00:23, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
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Results for the 2021 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election
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Thank you to everyone who participated in the 2021 Board election. The Elections Committee has reviewed the votes of the 2021 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election, organized to select four new trustees. A record 6,873 people from across 214 projects cast their valid votes. The following four candidates received the most support:
Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight
Victoria Doronina
Dariusz Jemielniak
Lorenzo Losa
While these candidates have been ranked through the community vote, they are not yet appointed to the Board of Trustees. They still need to pass a successful background check and meet the qualifications outlined in the Bylaws. The Board has set a tentative date to appoint new trustees at the end of this month.
Read
the full announcement here
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01:56, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
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Proposal: discontinue Tech News to this board
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I propose to delete the Tech News here without archiving it and also support the unsubscription of this to this board. It is overwhelming this board with frequency and amount of content. It is also not on-topic, as this is a Wikisource general discussion board.
This board is one of hundreds of targets for these news announcements, so people have other options for getting news. Mostly two kinds of users are at this board: experienced Wikimedia editors who know how to access news elsewhere, and less experienced Wikimedia editors who are not looking for archives of news updates.
Support
Bluerasberry
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20:32, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
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Comment
, Why not just have separate places for these news? Tech News contains things like announcements of server switches and technical features that can be beneficial for Wikisource, an example of a better alternative to deleting would be creating something like "
Wikisource:Scriptorium/Announcements
" which is linked prominently above and only contains
this
month's (or only six months or a year, depending on how much news / automated messages are actually placed here) announcements and newsletters, while the main Scriptorium could then be exclusively used for community discussions and
urgent
announcements (exclusively related to Wikisource) free from all the clutter. Note: I am not a frequent contributor here, I just read this website. --
Donald Trung/徵國單
討論 🀄
) (
方孔錢 💴
12:46, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
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I would say No. It should be found by the users. What we can do is to archive the tech news more frequently, might be in a special archive like
Tech Archive
or something like this.
-jkb-
talk
17:59, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
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Once more: what shall we do wit this? Both alternatives are possible.
-jkb-
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21:42, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
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Advice for multilingual text - Popul Vul - Mayan language
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I have this text in various forms including scanned images and digital text.
Popol Vuh
(Q220264)
w:Popol Vuh
commons:Category:Popol Vuh
The original text is in both
en:Kʼicheʼ language
and Spanish, but I may also have access to translations with Wikimedia compatible copyright.
Here are my questions:
Which language version Wikisource is the right place for central management of this? The original publication contains the full text in K'iche and Spanish.
Can someone point me to a good example of a text in Wikisource which also has translations? I want to see how Wikisource links translations of texts across languages.
K'iche script is unique and has an ISO code. Can anyone tell me if Wikisource can already handle text in that script?
If K'iche is not already set up...
How complicated is it to import an ISO code?
Can I start engaging with the text before setting up the script, or is there some reason why I should sort the script import in Wikisource first?
Can someone else check to confirm that this text is either not already in Wikisource, or otherwise, confirm that I can just start playing around with an upload?
I found
es:Popol Vuh
but I am not sure which version of text this is or what the source is.
Thanks. Please no one put too much effort into answering these questions. I am still exploring options, and just want casual thoughts at this time.
Bluerasberry
talk
20:47, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
reply
It is not common here, but we have
Hail Mary
here for example.
-jkb-
talk
09:39, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
reply
Thanks, that is helpful.
Bluerasberry
talk
16:24, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
reply
my pleasure :-)
-jkb-
talk
16:34, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
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As far as I know, MediaWiki can handle any Unicode text, so adding text in K'iche script should be no problem as long as it uses Unicode (but what else would it use in 2021?). This doesn’t ensure that readers will be able to read it, though, but it depends on fonts installed on their computers, for which you/we can only add advice. —
Tacsipacsi
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17:26, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
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Call for Candidates for the Movement Charter Drafting Committee ending 14 September 2021
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Movement Strategy announces
the Call for Candidates for the Movement Charter Drafting Committee
. The Call opens August 2, 2021 and closes September 14, 2021.
The Committee is expected to represent
diversity in the Movement
. Diversity includes gender, language, geography, and experience. This comprises participation in projects, affiliates, and the Wikimedia Foundation.
English fluency is not required to become a member. If needed, translation and interpretation support is provided. Members will receive an allowance to offset participation costs. It is US$100 every two months.
We are looking for people who have some of the following
skills
Know how to write collaboratively. (demonstrated experience is a plus)
Are ready to find compromises.
Focus on inclusion and diversity.
Have knowledge of community consultations.
Have intercultural communication experience.
Have governance or organization experience in non-profits or communities.
Have experience negotiating with different parties.
The Committee is expected to start with 15 people. If there are 20 or more candidates, a mixed election and selection process will happen. If there are 19 or fewer candidates, then the process of selection without election takes place.
Will you help move Wikimedia forward in this important role? Submit your candidacy
here
. Please contact strategy2030
wikimedia.org with questions.
Xeno (WMF)
16:50, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
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Server switch
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Read this message in another language
Please help translate to your language
The
Wikimedia Foundation
tests the switch between its first and secondary data centers. This will make sure that Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia wikis can stay online even after a disaster. To make sure everything is working, the Wikimedia Technology department needs to do a planned test. This test will show if they can reliably switch from one data centre to the other. It requires many teams to prepare for the test and to be available to fix any unexpected problems.
They will switch all traffic back to the primary data center on
Tuesday, 14 September 2021
Unfortunately, because of some limitations in
MediaWiki
, all editing must stop while the switch is made. We apologize for this disruption, and we are working to minimize it in the future.
You will be able to read, but not edit, all wikis for a short period of time.
You will not be able to edit for up to an hour on Tuesday, 14 September 2021. The test will start at
14:00 UTC
(07:00 PDT, 10:00 EDT, 15:00 WEST/BST, 16:00 CEST, 19:30 IST, 23:00 JST, and in New Zealand at 02:00 NZST on Wednesday, 15 September).
If you try to edit or save during these times, you will see an error message. We hope that no edits will be lost during these minutes, but we can't guarantee it. If you see the error message, then please wait until everything is back to normal. Then you should be able to save your edit. But, we recommend that you make a copy of your changes first, just in case.
Other effects
Background jobs will be slower and some may be dropped. Red links might not be updated as quickly as normal. If you create an article that is already linked somewhere else, the link will stay red longer than usual. Some long-running scripts will have to be stopped.
We expect the code deployments to happen as any other week. However, some case-by-case code freezes could punctually happen if the operation require them afterwards.
This project may be postponed if necessary. You can
read the schedule at wikitech.wikimedia.org
. Any changes will be announced in the schedule. There will be more notifications about this. A banner will be displayed on all wikis 30 minutes before this operation happens.
Please share this information with your community.
SGrabarczuk (WMF)
talk
00:46, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
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Talk to the Community Tech
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Read this message in another language
Please help translate to your language
Hello!
As we have
recently announced
, we, the team working on the
Community Wishlist Survey
, would like to invite you to an online meeting with us. It will take place on
September 15th, 23:00 UTC
on Zoom, and will last an hour.
Click here to join
Agenda
How we prioritize the wishes to be granted
Why we decided to change the date
from November 2021 to January 2022
Update on the
disambiguation
and the
real-time preview
wishes
Questions and answers
Format
The meeting will not be recorded or streamed. Notes without attribution will be taken and published on Meta-Wiki. The presentation (first three points in the agenda) will be given in English.
We can answer questions asked in English, French, Polish, and Spanish. If you would like to ask questions in advance, add them
on the Community Wishlist Survey talk page
or send to sgrabarczuk@wikimedia.org.
Natalia Rodriguez
(the
Community Tech
manager) will be hosting this meeting.
Invitation link
Join online
Meeting ID: 898 2861 5390
One tap mobile
+16465588656,,89828615390# US (New York)
+16699006833,,89828615390# US (San Jose)
Dial by your location
See you!
SGrabarczuk (WMF)
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03:04, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
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Working with other websites (an online library of religious texts)
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While I frequent Wikisource as a reader I don't edit here, so I am quite curious if there are any efforts to reach out to entire websites to import them. While researching religion in South Vietnam I recently found a website called
Sacret-Texts.com
, they seem to
know a lot about US copyright
and try to make sure that as much as possible on their website is in the public domain. This website seems like "a perfect match" for Wikisource, is it already being used as a source? Is it useful or do the actual texts need to be available and not just online transcriptions? --
Donald Trung
talk
12:41, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
reply
I'm afraid you must ask at the
vietnamese Wikisource
. Cheers,
-jkb-
talk
17:05, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
reply
These are all in English though. --
Donald Trung/徵國單
討論 🀄
) (
方孔錢 💴
07:58, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
reply
Donald Trung
: English texts should go to
English Wikisource
. Here is primarily a place for texts without their own linguistic domain (or free in US, but not free in the country of origin if not accepted in their linguistic domain).
Ankry
talk
17:07, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
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Tech News: 2021-37
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Latest
tech news
from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.
Translations
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Recent changes
45 new Wikipedias now have access to the
Growth features
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A majority of Wikipedias
now have access to the Growth features. The Growth team
has published an FAQ page
about the features. This translatable FAQ covers the description of the features, how to use them, how to change the configuration, and more.
Problems
All wikis will be read-only
for a few minutes on 14 September. This is planned at
14:00 UTC
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Changes later this week
The
new version
of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 September. It will be on all wikis from 16 September (
calendar
).
Starting this week, Wikipedia in Italian will receive weekly software updates on Wednesdays. It used to receive the updates on Thursdays. Due to this change, bugs will be noticed and fixed sooner.
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You can add language links in the sidebar in
the new Vector skin
again. You do this by connecting the page to a Wikidata item. The new Vector skin has moved the language links but the new language selector cannot add language links yet.
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The
syntax highlight
tool marks up code with different colours. It now can highlight 23 new code languages. Additionally,
golang
can now be used as an alias for the
Go programming language
, and a special
output
mode has been added to show a program's output.
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Asking for delete
edit
The book I currently working
Index:ရွှေဘုံနိဒါန်း.pdf
is same as
ရွှေဘုံနိဒါန်း
. Can I make a request to delete
ရွှေဘုံနိဒါန်း
P0rnytail
talk
15:00, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
reply
P0rnytail
: Why would we? The goal of proofreading is to eventually transclude the proofread text in the main namespace; the Index and Page namespaces are behind-the-scenes stuff. Instead of deleting, just overwrite the content with the
tag
transcluding the proofread text when you’re done with the proofreading. —
Tacsipacsi
talk
16:41, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
reply
So, I should move my text to that page after completed. Is that right? If so, what is the role of PDF file on WikiCommons? Should I request to delete that after all the previous stuff done?
P0rnytail
talk
16:48, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
reply
No, you should
transclude it
with the wikicode

(assuming that
Page:ရွှေဘုံနိဒါန်း.pdf/3
is the first and
Page:ရွှေဘုံနိဒါန်း.pdf/119
is the last page containing actual content); obviously this requires that you
don’t
request deleting any content. There are two purposes of uploading PDFs to Commons: first, it helps the digitization of the book (people without access to a physical copy can help, and you can more easily work in smaller chunks, e.g. digitize one page at a time); second, they serve as a source, anyone can check if the Wikisource text matches the original work. —
Tacsipacsi
talk
18:40, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
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Tech News: 2021-38
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Latest
tech news
from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.
Translations
are available.
Recent changes
Growth features are now deployed to almost all Wikipedias.
For the majority of small Wikipedias
, the features are only available for experienced users, to
test the features
and
configure them
. Features will be available for newcomers starting on 20 September 2021.
MediaWiki had a feature that would highlight local links to short articles in a different style. Each user could pick the size at which "stubs" would be highlighted. This feature was very bad for performance, and following a consultation, has been removed.
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A technical change was made to the MonoBook skin to allow for easier maintenance and upkeep. This has resulted in some minor changes to HTML that make MonoBook's HTML consistent with other skins. Efforts have been made to minimize the impact on editors, but please ping
Jon (WMF)
on wiki or in
phabricator
if any problems are reported.
Problems
There was a problem with search last week. Many search requests did not work for 2 hours because of an accidental restart of the search servers.
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Changes later this week
The
new version
of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 September. It will be on all wikis from 23 September (
calendar
).
The
meta=proofreadpage API
has changed. The
piprop
parameter has been renamed to
prpiprop
. API users should update their code to avoid unrecognized parameter warnings. Pywikibot users should upgrade to 6.6.0.
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Future changes
The
Reply tool
will be deployed to the remaining wikis in the coming weeks. It is currently part of "Discussion tools" in
Beta features
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Movement Charter Drafting Committee - Community Elections to take place October 11 - 24
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Dear fellow Wikimedians,
This is an update from the Movement Charter process. We have closed the call for candidates on September 14 for the Drafting Committee and now have a pool of candidates with diverse backgrounds to choose from. As the number of candidates is quite large and thus informing yourself about them might be a bit more complicated, we want to try something different this time: an “Election Compass", more about it in
this page
The 15 member committee will be selected with a
3-step process
Election process for project communities to elect 7 members of the committee.
Selection process for affiliates to select 6 members of the committee.
Wikimedia Foundation process to appoint 2 members of the committee.
Communities elect 7 members
This announcement is related to the community elections, which will take place in a time period of 2 weeks from October 11 to October 24. We look forward to a wide participation across the communities to create the committee to curate the writing of the Movement Charter. The Election Results will be published on November 1.
Affiliates select 6 members
Parallel to the election process, all affiliates asked to contribute as well: All affiliates were divided into eight geographic and one ‘thematic’ region (check the list), and each region chooses one person who will act as a selector for that region. These 9 selectors will come together to select 6 of the committee (from the same pool of candidates). The selection results will be published on November 1.
Wikimedia Foundation appoints 2 members
Finally, the Wikimedia Foundation will appoint two members to the committee by November 1.
All three processes will be concluded by November 1, 2021, so that the Movement Charter Drafting Committee can start working by then.
For the full context of the Movement Charter, its role, as well the process for its creation, please
have a look at Meta
. You can also contact us at any time on Telegram or via email (wikimedia2030@wikimedia.org).
Best regards, --
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10:28, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
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Author Pages
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Can anybody provide me with a list of "template" etc pages I need to download / translate in order to create "Author Pages" to Cy-Wikisource, at the moment I'm using the "category pages" to include author details, which is where the author line in transclusion pages goes. But I would prefer dedicated pages, but can't work out how to create them or link to them to them
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02:09, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
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Recent changes
iOS 15
has a new function called
Private Relay
(Apple website). This can hide the user's IP when they use
Safari
browser. This is like using a
VPN
in that we see another IP address instead. It is opt-in and only for those who pay extra for
iCloud
. It will come to Safari users on
OSX
later. There is a
technical discussion
about what this means for the Wikimedia wikis.
Problems
Some gadgets and user-scripts add items to the
portlets
(article tools) part of the skin. A recent change to the HTML may have made those links a different font-size. This can be fixed by adding the CSS class
.vector-menu-dropdown-noicon
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The
new version
of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 September. It will be on all wikis from 30 September (
calendar
).
The
GettingStarted extension
was built in 2013, and provides an onboarding process for new account holders in a few versions of Wikipedia. However, the recently developed
Growth features
provide a better onboarding experience. Since the vast majority of Wikipedias now have access to the Growth features, GettingStarted will be deactivated starting on 4 October.
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A small number of users will not be able to connect to the Wikimedia wikis after 30 September. This is because an old
root certificate
will no longer work. They will also have problems with many other websites. Users who have updated their software in the last five years are unlikely to have problems. Users in Europe, Africa and Asia are less likely to have immediate problems even if their software is too old. You can
You can
receive notifications
when someone leaves a comment on user talk page or mentions you in a talk page comment. Clicking the notification link will now bring you to the comment and highlight it. Previously, doing so brought you to the top of the section that contained the comment. You can find
more information in T282029.
Future changes
The
Reply tool
will be deployed to the remaining wikis in the coming weeks. It is currently part of "Discussion tools" in
Beta features
at most wikis. You will be able to turn it off in
Editing Preferences
See the list of wikis.
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Let's talk about the Desktop Improvements
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Hello!
Have you noticed that some wikis have a
different desktop interface
? Are you curious about the next steps? Maybe you have questions or ideas regarding the design or technical matters?
Join an online meeting with the team working on the Desktop Improvements! It will take place on
October 12th, 16:00 UTC
on Zoom. It will last an hour.
Click here to join
Agenda
Update on the recent developments
Sticky header
- presentation of the demo version
Questions and answers, discussion
Format
The meeting will not be recorded or streamed. Notes will be taken in a
Google Docs file
. The presentation part (first two points in the agenda) will be given in English.
We can answer questions asked in English, French, Polish, and Spanish. If you would like to ask questions in advance, add them on the
talk page
or send them to sgrabarczuk@wikimedia.org.
Olga Vasileva
(the team manager) will be hosting this meeting.
Invitation link
Join online
Meeting ID: 829 3670 1376
Dial by your location
We hope to see you!
SGrabarczuk (WMF)
15:09, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
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Hello! I'd like to remind that the meeting will happen today. You are welcome to join!
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15:13, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
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A more efficient way of sending changes from Wikidata to Wikimedia wikis that show them has been enabled for the following 10 wikis: mediawiki.org, the Italian, Catalan, Hebrew and Vietnamese Wikipedias, French Wikisource, and English Wikivoygage, Wikibooks, Wiktionary and Wikinews. If you notice anything strange about how changes from Wikidata appear in recent changes or your watchlist on those wikis you can
let the developers know
Changes later this week
The
new version
of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 October. It will be on all wikis from 7 October (
calendar
).
Some gadgets and bots that use the API to read the AbuseFilter log might break. The
hidden
property will no longer say an entry is
implicit
for unsuppressed log entries about suppressed edits. If your bot needs to know this, do a separate revision query. Additionally, the property will have the value
false
for visible entries; previously, it wasn't included in the response.
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A more efficient way of sending changes from Wikidata to Wikimedia wikis that show them will be enabled for
all production wikis
. If you notice anything strange about how changes from Wikidata appear in recent changes or your watchlist you can
let the developers know
Future changes
You can soon get cross-wiki notifications in the
iOS Wikipedia app
. You can also get notifications as push notifications. More notification updates will follow in later versions.
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The JavaScript variables
wgExtraSignatureNamespaces
wgLegalTitleChars
, and
wgIllegalFileChars
will soon be removed from
mw.config
. These are not part of the "stable" variables available for use in wiki JavaScript.
[136]
The JavaScript variables
wgCookiePrefix
wgCookieDomain
wgCookiePath
, and
wgCookieExpiration
will soon be removed from mw.config. Scripts should instead use
mw.cookie
from the "
mediawiki.cookie
" module.
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Remove main namespace from wgExtraSignatureNamespaces
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I am planning to remove the main namespace from the wgExtraSignatureNamespaces configuration setting on this wiki. I think this will have very little impact, but letting you know just in case. For more context, see
task T291630
(although I'm happy to reply here if you have any questions).
Currently, that configuration setting affects:
Whether there is a "Signature and timestamp"
button on the editing toolbar in that namespace
Whether
DiscussionTools's reply tool and new topic tool
are available in that namespace
It was
configured that way in 2014
for all "special" wikis (basically, anything other than the Wikimedia projects with multiple language versions), on the assumption that they
often have discussions, including their "village pump" equivalent, in [main namespace]
. This doesn't seem correct for this wiki. We're planning to use that config setting for future discussion-related features, and it would probably be unexpected if they showed up in the main namespace here.
Please let me know if there's any problem with this. Thanks.
Matma Rex
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18:36, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
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The change has been applied now.
Matma Rex
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11:38, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
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The
new version
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calendar
).
The
"auto-number headings" preference
is being removed. You can read
phab:T284921
for the reasons and discussion. This change was
previously
announced.
A JavaScript snippet
is available which can be used to create a Gadget on wikis that still want to support auto-numbering.
Meetings
You can join a meeting about the
Desktop Improvements
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newest feature
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Voting for the MCDC Election
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Voting for the election of the members for the Movement Charter drafting committee is now open. In total, 70 Wikimedians from around the world are running for 7 seats in this election.
Voting is open from October 12 to October 24, 2021.
The Movement Charter committee will consist of 15 members in total: The online communities will vote for 7 members, 6 members will be selected by the Wikimedia affiliates through a parallel process, and 2 members will be appointed by the Wikimedia Foundation. The plan is to assemble the committee by November 1, 2021.
You can learn more about each candidate to inform your vote
here
You can also learn more about the Drafting Committee
here
We are piloting a voting advice application for this election. Click through the tool and you will see which candidate is closest to you! To try out this tool, visit:
App
Go vote at SecurePoll:
Vote
Read the full announcement:
here
Best, --
Civvi (WMF)
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15:14, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
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Toolhub
is a catalogue to make it easier to find software tools that can be used for working on the Wikimedia projects. You can
Changes later this week
The
new version
of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 October. It will be on all wikis from 21 October (
calendar
).
Future changes
The developers of the
Wikipedia Android app
are working on
communication in the app
. You can now answer questions in
survey
to help the development.
3–5% of editors may be blocked in the next few months. This is because of a new service in Safari, which is similar to a
proxy
or a
VPN
. It is called iCloud Private Relay. There is a
discussion about this
on Meta. The goal is to learn what iCloud Private Relay could mean for the communities.
Wikimedia Enterprise
is a new
API
for those who use a lot of information from the Wikimedia projects on other sites. It is a way to get big commercial users to pay for the data. There will soon be a copy of the Wikimedia Enterprise dataset. You can
. You can also ask the team questions
on Zoom
on
22 October 15:00 UTC
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Learn how Movement Strategy Implementation Grants can support your Movement Strategy plans
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Movement Strategy Implementation grants now provide more than $2,000 USD to put Movement Strategy plans into action. Find out more about Movement Strategy Implementation grants, the criteria, and how to apply
here
Also, the Movement Charter Drafting Committee election is still ongoing. It would be great to increase community participation. If you haven't voted now is the time. Please
vote here
before October 24. Regards, --
Civvi (WMF)
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12:43, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
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Talk to the Community Tech
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Read this message in another language
Hello!
We, the team working on the
Community Wishlist Survey
, would like to invite you to an online meeting with us. It will begin on
27 October (Wednesday) at 14:30 UTC
on Zoom, and will last an hour.
Click here to join
Agenda
Become a Community Wishlist Survey Ambassador. Help us spread the word about the CWS in your community.
Update on the
disambiguation
and the
real-time preview
wishes
Questions and answers
Format
The meeting will not be recorded or streamed. Notes without attribution will be taken and published on Meta-Wiki. The presentation (all points in the agenda except for the questions and answers) will be given in English.
We can answer questions asked in English, French, Polish, Spanish, German, and Italian. If you would like to ask questions in advance, add them
on the Community Wishlist Survey talk page
or send to sgrabarczuk@wikimedia.org.
Natalia Rodriguez
(the
Community Tech
manager) will be hosting this meeting.
Invitation link
Join online
Meeting ID:
83847343544
Dial by your location
We hope to see you!
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23:00, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
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Recent changes
The
Coolest Tool Award 2021
is looking for nominations. You can recommend tools until 27 October.
Changes later this week
The
new version
of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 October. It will be on all wikis from 28 October (
calendar
).
Future changes
Diff pages
will have an improved copy and pasting experience.
The changes
will allow the text in the diff for before and after to be treated as separate columns and will remove any unwanted syntax.
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The version of the
Liberation fonts
used in SVG files will be upgraded. Only new thumbnails will be affected. Liberation Sans Narrow will not change.
[139]
Meetings
You can join a meeting about the
Community Wishlist Survey
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disambiguation
and the
real-time preview
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Inactive admins
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There seem to be a number of inactive admins per
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अजीत कुमार तिवारी
talk
contribs
global contribs
) - 2020-09-18 06:53
BRUTE
talk
contribs
global contribs
) - 2019-10-04 06:15
LadyInGrey
talk
contribs
global contribs
) - 2019-08-26 02:44
Phe
talk
contribs
global contribs
) - 2016-04-16 15:01
DeirdreAnne
talk
contribs
global contribs
) - 2018-10-23 03:16
Has the community attempted to contacted these users or alternatively, considered removing rights? --
Rs
chen
7754
00:46, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
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Voting for desysoping
edit
I think we should discuss this point - desysoping for long inactivity has happened here some more times, see
Wikisource:Administrators#Desysoped for long inactivity
. The five names users has not been active since end of 2019. This week I will try to contact them, but apart from this please do give your votes here.
-jkb-
talk
11:19, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
reply
-jkb-
: Not exactly:
User:अजीत कुमार तिवारी
did edit in 2020. And we traditionally removed rights after 2-year inactivity.
Ankry
talk
16:50, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
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Yes, two year's of inactivity is our general rule. --
Ooswesthoesbes
talk
17:46, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
reply
OK, I didn't see this, you are right, but the other four users are more than two years inactive.
-jkb-
talk
21:18, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
reply
Any update? --
Rs
chen
7754
22:25, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
reply
-jkb-
Ooswesthoesbes
Rschen7754
: I have
started
the desysop voting procedure.
Ankry
talk
02:57, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
reply
Thank you. Usually I wait a few days for them to respond. --
Ooswesthoesbes
talk
07:18, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
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Meet the new Movement Charter Drafting Committee members
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The Movement Charter Drafting Committee election and selection processes are complete.
The
election results have been published
. 1018 participants voted to elect seven members to the committee:
Richard Knipel (Pharos)
Anne Clin (Risker)
Alice Wiegand (Lyzzy)
Michał Buczyński (Aegis Maelstrom)
Richard (Nosebagbear)
Ravan J Al-Taie (Ravan)
Ciell (Ciell)
The
affiliate process
has selected six members:
Anass Sedrati (Anass Sedrati)
Érica Azzellini (EricaAzzellini)
Jamie Li-Yun Lin (Li-Yun Lin)
Georges Fodouop (Geugeor)
Manavpreet Kaur (Manavpreet Kaur)
Pepe Flores (Padaguan)
The Wikimedia Foundation has
appointed
two members:
Runa Bhattacharjee (Runab WMF)
Jorge Vargas (JVargas (WMF))
The committee will convene soon to start its work. The committee can appoint up to three more members to bridge diversity and expertise gaps.
If you are interested in engaging with
Movement Charter
drafting process, follow the updates
on Meta
and join the
Telegram group
With thanks from the Movement Strategy and Governance team. --
Civvi (WMF)
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15:10, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
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Recent changes
There is a limit on the amount of emails a user can send each day. This limit is now global instead of per-wiki. This change is to prevent abuse.
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Changes later this week
The
new version
of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 November. It will be on all wikis from 4 November (
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Proposal: discontinue Tech News to this board 2
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New beginning, see above
#Proposal: discontinue Tech News to this board
. I'm like to change my mind. The different WMF staff, first of all Tech News etc., are really becoming "overwhelming this board with frequency and amount of content." It is not easy to get hier an answer and to discuss our problems. O propose to order WMF staff to something like "Wikisource:Scriptorium/Tech news" or better "Wikisource:Scriptorium/Announcements".
Let us discuss it, then we can reorder the announcements to the new place. Invited are all, and the users who started the first part above especiaslly - @
Bluerasberry
Donald Trung
:. Thanks,
-jkb-
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20:54, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
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Thanks for the reping
I made the original proposal, and I see there are other counter proposals. Here are the options proposed as I understand them:
Do nothing, status quo
Discontinue tech news entirely
Set up new board, send tech news there
status quo for tech news coming to this board, but archive it separately to a new board
I favor some change being made and still think the problem is serious enough to merit a response. This board should be a place for humans to have peer to peer interactions. Because these announcements are from outsiders rather than peers, and because they are off-topic for what humans on this board typically discuss, I feel that this board is not the place for those announcements. I support the messages going anywhere else where people can watch the board and access the messages as they like. It is not my intent to block access to the messages, but these are mass mailings and they do outnumber human posts which I see as much more valuable. Another aspect of solution that I want is something which is zero labor to maintain. If someone volunteers to keep up with archiving after a month then that might help, but I prefer a solution which does not require a human to commit to labor.
Thoughts from others?
Bluerasberry
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21:12, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
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It can be helpful messages, but I do see the problem of this page being cluttered up. Therefore, my preference goes out to a separate (sub)page for those messages to be posted on. --
Ooswesthoesbes
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17:47, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
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I doubt anyone would read the Tech News messages if they weren't here on at least linked here.
Ankry
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22:03, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
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Recent changes
Mobile IP editors are now able to receive warning notices indicating they have a talk page message on the mobile website (similar to the orange banners available on desktop). These notices will be displayed on every page outside of the main namespace and every time the user attempts to edit. The notice on desktop now has a slightly different colour.
[142]
[143]
Changes later this week
Wikidata will be read-only
for a few minutes on 11 November. This will happen around
06:00 UTC
. This is for database maintenance.
[144]
There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Future changes
In the future, unregistered editors will be given an identity that is not their
IP address
. This is for legal reasons. A new user right will let editors who need to know the IPs of unregistered accounts to fight vandalism, spam, and harassment, see the IP. You can read the
suggestions for how that identity could work
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Mensusa accounts
edit
See
User talk:-jkb-#ping ping :-)
abuse filter 14
Meta CU request
, regards
-jkb-
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18:02, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
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Own Checkuser on Oldwikisource - a proposal
edit
See pls the previous topic
#Mensusa accounts
and the links to the abuse filter and the CU request at meta. Such request is quite simple (I was CU at Wikilivres for some time) but it costs the stewards a lot of time I guess. Something like this happens here not very often, but however, I think we could have our own checkuser. As far as I know there must be at least two persons (just to control each other, in some projects three etc.), might be we can vote for three. I can gladly apply for it as I know the CU procedure, but that's a matter of choice if we want it. Info: As far as I know, all check users at WMF must announce and confirm their real life identity. 1) do you think we can arrange this and 2) has somebody the interest to apply for it?
-jkb-
talk
20:09, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
reply
Please carefully read
m:CheckUser_policy#Access_to_CheckUser
that any wiki must have >= 2 CheckUsers or zero. Thus do not vote until getting at least 2 qualified candidates.--
Jusjih
talk
05:31, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
(former CheckUser on English Wikiquote and former steward with no more interest in CheckUser)
reply
I think, we are discussing on
whether we need
not about candidates at this point.
Ankry
talk
16:37, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
reply
Regardless of policy, I do not think that checkuser tools would be helpful here. If an account was not created or it has made no action after creating, there is no logged action for a checkuser. Stewards may do checks in loginwiki, but see no job for a checkuser here.
Ankry
talk
16:37, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
reply
Pragmatically - I don't think you could get the needed 25 support votes in a timeframe that would be acceptable to stewards. --
Rs
chen
7754
22:22, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
reply
Oh "see no job for a checkuser here" - ehm? See
#Mensusa accounts
, see [
talk:-jkb-#Mensusa_2
], see
abuse log 14
and
CU meta
(rejected by Urbanec, wo has some problems with cs.wiki/cs.Source and people from there, my experience).
-jkb-
talk
21:12, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
reply
Voting for new CheckUsers does not have a definite time frame. Yet getting 25 supports seems hard here.--
Jusjih
talk
06:06, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
(admin on 13 wikis, too busy)
reply
Where can I find nepali language community to talk on wikisource?
edit
Please redirect me to there.
unsigned
comment by
Kushal Dev Wiki
talk
) 14 November 2021 13:50.
I'm afraid there is no one. But try to find some similar languages on
Category:Languages
or
Category:Babel
or
Category:Main Pages
; however there exist the
nepali main page
where you could fine the authors who were editing it.
-jkb-
talk
13:13, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
reply
But I'm not sure if they still edit here, might be in this case you should try to reach them on their wikipedias.
-jkb-
talk
13:27, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
reply
Why different languages have different kind of domains?
edit
English wikisource opens in different format than nepali. While opening nepali wikisource, it is redirected from somewhere else. How to turn nepali wikisource into standard subdomain?
unsigned
comment by
Kushal Dev Wiki
talk
) 14 November 2021 13:55.
Kushal Dev Wiki
: A language domain can be created if it gathers enoth active contributors. According to
this page
you need at least 5 active controbutors editing the project each month.
Ankry
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02:14, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
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Most
large file uploads
errors that had messages like "
stashfailed
" or "
DBQueryError
" have now been fixed. An
incident report
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Problems
Sometimes, edits made on iOS using the visual editor save groups of numbers as telephone number links, because of a feature in the operating system. This problem is under investigation.
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There was a problem with search last week. Many search requests did not work for 2 hours because of a configuration error.
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There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
The template dialog in VisualEditor and in the
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Talk to the Community Tech: The future of the Community Wishlist Survey
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Hello!
We, the team working on the
Community Wishlist Survey
, would like to invite you to an online meeting with us. It will take place on
30 November (Tuesday), 17:00 UTC
on Zoom, and will last an hour.
Click here to join
Agenda
Changes to the Community Wishlist Survey 2022. Help us decide.
Become a Community Wishlist Survey Ambassador. Help us spread the word about the CWS in your community.
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The meeting will not be recorded or streamed. Notes without attribution will be taken and published on Meta-Wiki. The presentation (all points in the agenda except for the questions and answers) will be given in English.
We can answer questions asked in English, French, Polish, Spanish, German, and Italian. If you would like to ask questions in advance, add them
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MediaWiki 1.38-wmf.11 was scheduled to be deployed on some wikis last week. The deployment was delayed because of unexpected problems.
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At all Wikipedias, a Mentor Dashboard is now available at
Special:MentorDashboard
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Growth features
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activating the mentor list
on your wiki and about
the mentor dashboard project
The predecessor to the current
MediaWiki Action API
(which was created in 2008),
action=ajax
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jquery.jStorage
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mediawiki.storage
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There are now default
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[[WB:]]
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[[Project:]]
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22:27, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
Pali using Thai script
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At Thai Wikisource, we found a Pali
Tripiṭaka
written in Thai script, and according to the policy , we cannot proofread the text there, so I'm wondering if multilingual Wikisource accepts Pali works using Thai script?
Here's one of the 45 books of the text.
--
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02:14, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
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And as it is published in Thailand, and the copyright had expired in Thailand, can we use our
copyright expired law
to proofread the text here? --
Bebiezaza
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02:21, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
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Bebiezaza
This sounds like it can be hosted here at Multilingual Wikisource (see also
Main_Page/Pāḷi
): since they were published in up to 1930, and went in the Thai PD after 1930 + 50 = 1980, it was in the PD in its home country of Thailand in 1996. Therefore, it was not restored by URAA and it's in the public domain also in the US per {{
PD-1996
}}.
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12:19, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
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Requesting admin help - proofread transclusion
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Transcluding proofread page to mainspace does not move the text out of the way of the page number, see
สฺยามรฏฺฐสฺส_เตปิฏกํ/Volume_1/Chapter_1
. What should happen is the text moves out of the way for the page number to not stack on top of the text, like as seen in
en:The_Return_of_Tarzan/Chapter_2
I think some other elements might need fixing too, but I have not noticed them yet (except {{
nop
}}). --
Bebiezaza
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14:42, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
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Zyephyrus
Ankry
Ooswesthoesbes
: can you pls have a look at it? thx,
-jkb-
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16:04, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
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Probably we need some default CSS settings, but I am not familiar with them; I can only suggest a Mdiv>-based workaround at the moment.
Ankry
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16:13, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
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It seems like text highlighting when hovering on page number is also broken --
Bebiezaza
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17:40, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
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Unfortunately, I am of no help here :( --
Ooswesthoesbes
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07:30, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
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Explicit page numbers like
[ ๒ ]
in
สฺยามรฏฺฐสฺส_เตปิฏกํ/Volume_1/Chapter_1
are explicitly added to the wikitext of the page: pages like
Page:สฺยามรฏฺฐสฺส_เตปิฏกํ_-_วินยปิฏเก_มหาวิภฺงคสฺส_ปฐโม_ภาโค.pdf/17
. It's why they are not moved to the side because they are considered by ProofreadPage as content.
About
text highlighting when hovering on page number
, this feature is managed by a custom script/gadget in a lot of Wikisource but nothing has been added to the oldWikisource about it yet.
Tpt
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Recent changes
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) are now only allowed to run for 10 seconds and error if they take longer. This is in response to multiple outages where long-running queries caused an outage on all wikis.
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The developers of the Wikipedia iOS app are looking for testers who edit in multiple languages. You can
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The Wikimedia
Cloud VPS
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claim projects
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Upcoming Call for Feedback about the Board of Trustees elections
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The Board of Trustees is preparing a call for feedback about the upcoming Board Elections, from January 7 - February 10, 2022.
While details will be finalized the week before the call, we have confirmed at least two questions that will be asked during this call for feedback:
What is the best way to ensure fair representation of emerging communities among the Board?
What involvement should candidates have during the election?
While additional questions may be added, the Movement Strategy and Governance team wants to provide time for community members and affiliates to consider and prepare ideas on the confirmed questions before the call opens. We apologize for not having a complete list of questions at this time. The list of questions should only grow by one or two questions. The intention is to not overwhelm the community with requests, but provide notice and welcome feedback on these important questions.
Do you want to help organize local conversation during this Call?
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Reach out if you have any questions or concerns. The Movement Strategy and Governance team will be minimally staffed until January 3. Please excuse any delayed response during this time. We also recognize some community members and affiliates are offline during the December holidays. We apologize if our message has reached you while you are on holiday.
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Movement Strategy and Governance--
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